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MotoSook 03-27-2011 08:18 PM

AR-spoon trigger
 
I'm building a 308AR and need a good trigger. I've never used a two-stage or adjustable one. Give me the Cliff Notes on these, please.

Timney? Jard? Geissele? Single stage? Adjustable? 2 stage?

What to buy for DCM type spoon?

emcon5 03-27-2011 08:24 PM

Jewell.

Not sure if they make them for AR10 type rifles though. Do they use the standard AR internals?

MotoSook 03-27-2011 08:31 PM

Same as an ARI5. I could use the trigger off my ARs if I need to. Here's a Jewell trigger but why not use with mil. ammo?

Jewell Trigger Assembly AR-15 Small Pin .154" Two Stage Matte - MidwayUSA

emcon5 03-27-2011 08:38 PM

Got me. Maybe the hammer spring is lighter, and doesn't pop hard primers reliably?

I have never had a problem, but then I don't think I ever shot military ammo through that rifle.

MotoSook 03-27-2011 08:41 PM

Light hammer spring would be my guess too.

emcon5 03-27-2011 08:42 PM

One of the user comments on Brownells claims it doesn't work on 308 rifles. Then again, one of the comments claims it requires a special safety which is BS.


MotoSook 03-27-2011 08:49 PM

My lower receiver will take any ARI5 fire group part. Just a matter of the spring force to pop a 308 primer.


Maybe something like this if adjustability isn't critical?

Geissele Super Dynamic Trigger Combat Version AR-15, LR-308 Small Pin .154" Matte - MidwayUSA

emcon5 03-27-2011 08:56 PM

Not sure I like that straight trigger.

And why didn't my link to Brownells post? I can see it if I edit my post, but it doesn't show up.

MotoSook 03-27-2011 09:14 PM

Maybe this one....

Geissele Super Semi Automatic Trigger AR-15, LR-308 Small Pin .154" Two Stage Matte - MidwayUSA

BlueSkyJaunte 03-28-2011 12:24 AM

Timney.

Very happy with mine. Easy drop-in installation and a crisp break @ 4.0 lbs.

ZLP 03-28-2011 05:23 AM

It's all personal preference. Find some local shops or shooters that will let you dry fire some. I don't think you can go wrong with any. The Timney and the Chip McCormick are my personal favorites.

id10t 03-28-2011 05:30 AM

If you will be shooting actual DCM matches there are limits on what your trigger can do/be, I'd check into that.

Otherwise, all of the triggers mentioned are quality.

tabs 03-28-2011 07:20 AM

2 stage match trigger..

also a Noveske 21 inch SS Barrel.

BlueSkyJaunte 03-28-2011 08:36 AM

Stick to smoke-poles and wheelguns, tabby.

MT930 03-28-2011 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 5928539)
Timney.

Very happy with mine. Easy drop-in installation and a crisp break @ 4.0 lbs.

1+ pretty simple

JTO 03-28-2011 12:56 PM

I have a Timney in my DPMS LR308 AP4. Nice trigger quality and easy to install. Worth the $200 when I consider the time and effort in getting my JP in the AR15 to feel as good as the Timney. The JP was $160!
Troy

MotoSook 03-28-2011 01:27 PM

Is the Timney so good that you guys don't feel the need for any adjustments? Troy, your JP and adjustable I take it.

tabs 03-28-2011 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueSkyJaunte (Post 5929065)
Stick to smoke-poles and wheelguns, tabby.

Noveske on his Polygonal SS Barrels gets sub minute of angle...or go Krieger..

Knights uses a nice and crisp 2 stage match trigger...

I own a Knights SR 25 and have handled the Noveske AR15 carbine and Knights SR15...that a friend just picked up..this weekend he took out the SR15 and just loved the trigger pull of the 2 stage.

So go climb back up into the tree from whence you came and fling your shyte elsewhere.

BlueSkyJaunte 03-28-2011 03:21 PM

Tabbydoll, I get sub-MOA out of a DPMS barrel. After a minimum level of manufacturing tolerances have been met, it's the Indian, not the arrow, that counts. The question wasn't about barrels, or a way-overpriced safe queen.

The balance of your response, "2 stage match trigger..", provides little information. The options there run the gamut from the RRA 2-stage ($100) to the Knight's 2-stage at (again, overpriced) $300 street. Though some dislike them I've had no problems with the RRA in two of my AR-15s. I'm not a big two-stage trigger fan but they're certainly better than the craptastic standard trigger and they're inexpensive.

Care to make a recommendation based on what you use?

azasadny 03-28-2011 03:34 PM

Two things I don't know anything about, triggers and optics... Sorry I can't offer any suggestions! I love the AR-10 and I wish you luck with the project!!

BlueSkyJaunte 03-28-2011 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 5929639)
Is the Timney so good that you guys don't feel the need for any adjustments? Troy, your JP and adjustable I take it.

I tend to err on the side of simplicity. The Timney may not be as nice as a well-adjusted Geissele, but I'm not a bench rest shooter. As long as it breaks clean under 5 lbs I'm happy.

FWIW I have the AR-15 Timney in my DPMS. Never had an undented primer yet. I have had a dud milsurp round or two, though!

JTO 03-28-2011 07:45 PM

Both my jp and timney are single stage
I had to fit the jp and it took a while to get it perfect
The timney was perfect out of the box
Troy

emcon5 03-30-2011 01:08 PM

Just got an email from Midway, this one just went on sale.

Still not sure what I think of that straight trigger though.

MotoSook 04-06-2011 11:27 AM

I settled on the Geissele Super Semi Automatic trigger (2-stage)...only because I got a birthday discount on it ($170 reg. $199.99) and it comes with a hat...woohooo a hat!

The SSA has the normal curved trigger with a 2.5 lbs 1st stage and 2 lbs 2nd stage while the SD-C has a 3 lbs 1st stage and the straight trigger. It should be the best AR trigger I've ever used...so look for feedback.

I also picked up a Nikon M-223 1-4x scope with a DNZ aluminum mount. I don't recall reading about anyone using the M-223 scope on a 308 rig, but I'm hoping it'll withstand the heavier kick. If not...I can use it on one of my other rigs...anyone had the Nikon M-223 scope?

m21sniper 04-06-2011 03:33 PM

I have a Chip McCormick drop in match grade trigger ass'y in my AR. 3lb pull, very crisp. It's a little cheaper than a Timney, and the pull is just as good.

Nikon scopes are high quality, .308 recoil should be no problem at all.


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