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kach22i 04-25-2011 07:06 AM

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911pcars 04-25-2011 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeH (Post 5983089)
I recently watch a National Geographic episode about North Korea. Very eye opening. The people there treat Kim Jong Il like a god.

Looks like the whole show is on Youtube:

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Good info on NK. The voiceover NG reporter is journalist Lisa Ling. Her younger sister (Laura) was one of two journalists captured and arrested on the N. Korean border in '09 and eventually released. Made the headlines when it happened.

NK dictator, KJI is a paranoid meglamaniac. His people are brainwashed.

Sherwood

Rick Lee 04-25-2011 01:30 PM

Lisa Ling had to know she was totally snowed in that report. I would imagine she had to agree not to add much commentary after she got back as a condition of getting access to NK. That report didn't scratch the surface of the labor camps, prisoner experiments, rampant starvation and redirecting of foreign food aid to the military that is a daily part of life there. I've been to a few press conferences held by NK defectors and the stories they told would have to be censored even in this country to be allowed on tv. So disgusting and vile were they.

911pcars 04-25-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5984217)
Lisa Ling had to know she was totally snowed in that report. I would imagine she had to agree not to add much commentary after she got back as a condition of getting access to NK. That report didn't scratch the surface of the labor camps, prisoner experiments, rampant starvation and redirecting of foreign food aid to the military that is a daily part of life there. I've been to a few press conferences held by NK defectors and the stories they told would have to be censored even in this country to be allowed on tv. So disgusting and vile were they.

Ling reported on what she experienced on that trip, a state-sponsored medical project, in order to gain information via the limited access they had. Filtering factual data is not what journalism is about (you're accusing her of being a shill?). While one would wish for more first hand accounts of NK's ills, you're imagining what this trip was supposed to reveal within the context of an eye care trip. It's just one 45 min. facet of NK, not THE story.

Sherwood

Rick Lee 04-25-2011 02:20 PM

I saw the piece a few years ago. While it's not her fault she got a totally sanitized, government-guided tour, she certainly saw things she didn't report. IIRC, her sister was forced to sign something before her release promising to not say anything bad about her stay there. You can't go there and not notice the malnourished people. And I can't imagine doing a report on the country and not mentioning the bizarro world personality cult of the Kim Dynasty and then contrast all their supposed greatness with the fact that they cannot provide the most basic services to their people, let alone the irony that they barely survive on handouts from the countries they threaten the most.

911pcars 04-25-2011 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 5984326)
I saw the piece a few years ago. While it's not her fault she got a totally sanitized, government-guided tour, she certainly saw things she didn't report. IIRC, her sister was forced to sign something before her release promising to not say anything bad about her stay there. You can't go there and not notice the malnourished people. And I can't imagine doing a report on the country and not mentioning the bizarro world personality cult of the Kim Dynasty and then contrast all their supposed greatness with the fact that they cannot provide the most basic services to their people, let alone the irony that they barely survive on handouts from the countries they threaten the most.

Not sure what agreements her sister signed had any affect on this report. Is this conjecture on your part or just a guess?

I thought the bizarre godlike-worship of KJI was pretty well covered and demonstrated and the effect on the people. I don't recall the hidden cameras were approved by the NK govt "minders". Amazing how indoctrination can change one's perception, referring to the NK people.

Sherwood

Rick Lee 04-25-2011 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 5984360)
Not sure what agreements her sister signed had any affect on this report. Is this conjecture on your part or just a guess?

Not at all. I think Lisa's report was done long before her sister got caught there. I know one of those idiots who got held there had to sign some kind of promise like that as a condition of release. Can't remember if it was one of those bible nutbags or those "journalists."


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