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Imagine buying Brand X PC while your buddy bought Brand Y. He gets the latest Win7 patches and service packs while you don't. And the only way for you to get them is to either scour the net every day hoping some HS nerd took the time to hack a rock solid solution or go buy a new PC because that's exactly what we're talking about. Ridiculous:rolleyes: |
[STICKY][REF] Honeycomb Info - The Only Post - UPDATED 5/10/11 - xda-developers
Honeycomb is not available for the gTablet yet for the following reasons: 1. source hasn't even been released by Google yet 2. any port based on the SDK doth not a Honeycomb ROM make 3. we do not even have libraries (or source) from nVidia for Gingerbread yet Until we have source from Google and nVidia, we won't have workable Honeycomb. There will be some ports, but until one of the above happens, we are not going to be getting Honeycomb. Best case is 30 days from now (roughly the end of March). Any post asking about Honeycomb will be promptly closed and/or deleted. This isn't about discouraging discussion about Honeycomb on the gTablet - it's about stopping the endless flaming and abuse and posting and complaining about something that has been answered multiple times - thus taking away from other progress and endeavors. UPDATE 3/18/11 - We now have access to the Gingerbread libs needed for hardware acceleration, but in order to use them a complete rework of the github repo is required and a year's worth of merges and cleanups would need to be done. Slow going and no ETA. UPDATE 4/12/11 - http://www.androidcentral.com/nvidia...orm-past-froyo UPDATE 4/13/11 - http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/fo...y#comment-6191 UPDATE 13 APRIL 2011 A lot has been read into a very short post about a Tegra development kit. I'd like to clear up a few points. First, nothing changes in what we’re delivering to the open source community or customers. NVIDIA will continue to post the Tegra kernel to kernel.org and publish our Android code to our public git servers. Additionally, we will continue to make our BSP (codecs, GPU driver etc) available to all our hardware partners. We will continue to do this and nothing about these processes has changed. For our partners' Android devices, NVIDIA provides support until the hardware partner chooses to no longer support the device. So, for instance, NVIDIA will support the Xoom on all versions of Android Motorola requests until Motorola ceases to support the Xoom. The same goes for ViewSonic with the G-Tablet, Notion Ink with the Adam, Acer with the Iconia, LG with the Optimus 2X and so on. In relation to my original reply, that was a response to a specific question about a Tegra 250 Development Kit. Given the confusion, we will work with owners of Tegra 250 Development Kits individually to determine their needs. The term "Harmony" is an internal codename for the Tegra 250 Development Kit. It is not a tablet reference design. Each shipping tablet is a custom design with varying hardware components and requires a custom OS image from the OEM who made the tablet. Finally, while we cannot support or give out third party peripheral drivers or provide the Android 3.0 source before Google does, we do want to explore whether we can assist the open source ROM makers. We will be reaching out to them today. UPDATE 5/10/11 - There is now a pretty hacked together port of HC that has been ported to the gTablet - it is a mashup of other, authorized by Google tablets which have stock HC on them, and thrown together for Vega, Adam and gTablet. A lot doesn't work; it is not feature perfect..... it is only recommended for testing type users who are familiar with nvflash etc. and it is not built from source specifically for our devices. It is by no means official, nor is it what would probably be called "stable" - but it is as close as we've come to HC on the gTablet. Here is the post that has more information: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1065220 UPDATE 5/10/11 - Per Google I/O's Fireside chat today there will be no Honeycomb source released. Ever. You'll have to wait for Ice Cream Sandwich which will be out in Q4 2011. |
Damn that Apple for not letting me run iOS on my Newton!
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Although you can run NOS (Newton OS) on your iOS device.:) Honeycomb was already under development when the G-Tab was released. I find it incredulous that a device that has been on the market 5 months is not able to receive the latest OS. |
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I don't really care if I get Honeycomb, I would like Gingerbread for the Galaxy Tablet |
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My concern is Google. They need to start getting this right or they'll end up committing suicide. Right now Google does the work on the source, they release it to the hardware manufacturers who tweak it for their specific device. Unlike MSFT and Apple, google (currently) leaves updates/support in the hands of the individual hardware manufacturers. That's where this starts to fall apart for them. Android started as a phone OS, when it moved to tablets it was still a phone OS. The G-Tab did not ship with Android Marketplace, why, I think it's because Marketplace did not recognize tablets. If you navigated to Marketplace via browser and tried to download something it would tell you to log in, k fine, my gmail log in works, good, but wait, Marketplace will not let you download anything because there is no phone number associated with the device, well yeah, it's not a phone. Not all tablets have cellular capabilities so those owners were stuck with a tablet that they could not get apps for. Google are afraid of releasing Honeycomb because they fear phone users with older less powerful/capable devices will attempt to load it risking bricking their device or having a sub par experience prompting them to trash Honeycomb. Google are in a catch-22 right now, alienate early adopters or tarnish the brand. Tough situation. If they want to be in the market they need to control the OS from source to device. This is not like Linux where you can rely on the community. The average Linux users have a much higher technical skill set than the average consumer. The average consumer is the target market for tablets (and phones) so you can't approach it the same way. You need to dumb it down for them. The Ice Cream Sandwich announcement tells me they get it now and are trying to reign it back in. And BTW, the G-Tab is really a rebranded Malata SMB A-1002. My "G-Tab", (I'm running TNT on it) is a Malata SMB A-1004, the extra RAM is nice but the screen still sucks. |
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Have you had your hands on a Galaxy yet? |
Not yet, but I have a couple of friends who got them at the google event the other day and they have a favourable opinion.
Have a Xoom, nice device. |
I would assume that as soon as Ice Cream Sandwich is released the G-Tab will have developers helping it out again. I watched some of the IO presentations on You Tube and I think Google has finally stepped up to the plate and developed a way around all the "fragmentation" that is out there with different devices. That being said I like android because of the choices allowed to users.
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G-Tab is officially for Sale. It is "rooted" and has VEGAN Tab (Gingerbread) installed. Very fast and works great. I just like the smaller size Tablet.
PM me if any interst. I also have it up on Craigslist in Houston. |
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