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Dantilla 05-26-2011 07:36 AM

What I did last Saturday-
 
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mikesride 05-26-2011 07:43 AM

Awsome!
 
Passenger or pilot? Do you know the owner of the plane? Way cool!

mossguy 05-26-2011 08:06 AM

Is that your airplane, Dan?

Superman 05-26-2011 08:12 AM

WAY, WAY cool! WAY.

techweenie 05-26-2011 08:39 AM

Sweet.

Laneco 05-26-2011 08:43 AM

Oh that is BEAUTIFUL!!!

angela

kach22i 05-26-2011 08:50 AM

cool

daepp 05-26-2011 09:10 AM

Wimpy questions, but I'm curious - is there any heat in there? A duct off the engine maybe? Otherwise, wow - that could get cold!!!

Teutonics 05-26-2011 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesride (Post 6044899)
Passenger or pilot?

Flight picture was taken from passenger compartment, so assuming the former, but the latter would be even better!

onlycafe 05-26-2011 09:11 AM

i thought my trip to carlisle was amazing........and then i saw that!
great looking plane.

bivenator 05-26-2011 09:51 AM

Yep, that pretty much ruins me posting a picture weeding the flower beds for my Saturday fun.
Looks beautiful.

s_morrison57 05-26-2011 10:06 AM

Man I'd give someones nuts for a plane like that, your Sat. was way better than mine, I had to work

LakeCleElum 05-26-2011 10:57 AM

Very cool Dan.......Don't see any sunshine, so I know you were flying locally......

304065 05-26-2011 11:36 AM

My first thought was "New Standard D-25" but the tail is all wrong and it doesn't have the fat belly of the D-25. The bump cowl says "Waco."

Dantilla 05-26-2011 11:48 AM

Yup, a Waco. The city in Texas is "Way-co", the airplanes are "Wah-co".

I fly a spam-can Bonanza. After flying out to the coast for breakfast on Saturday, a couple brothers who have a few airplanes (all of them finished to stunning perfection) decided to park the Cessna 195 and get out the Waco. I've seen this airplane several times, but this is the first time they asked if I wanted to fly it. Took me two nano-seconds to say "Yes!".

Since I still do not have a tailwheel endorsement, I did not take off or land, but flew it quite a bit in between from the front cockpit.

What a glorious airplane to fly!

Tim Hancock 05-26-2011 12:01 PM

Pretty sure that is a "New Waco" the retro birds have been being built for years again now.... Beautiful classic looking birds! I have a buddy who is restoring a somewhat rare 1931 Waco INF.

Here is a pic of it in it's former glory days. Along with a pic of it's newly rebuilt top wing... It will likely win an award at Oshkosh in a couple years as my buddy has won with two previous restorations. ;)

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widgeon13 05-26-2011 12:02 PM

My FIL had one of those many moons ago, flew it on straight floats. If I recall correctly he also carried a good amount of oil as well in addition to what was in the engine.:D

What a great experience.

Dantilla 05-26-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 6045502)
Pretty sure that is a "New Waco" the retro birds have been being built for years again now....

Nope. This one was rebuilt from the cage on up. 1934 if I remember correctly.

Powered by a 275 hp Jacobs, it will cruise at 145. Pretty speedy for an open-cockpit biplane. What suprised me was how nicely it flew without needing lotsa rudder. This airplane was designed towards the end of the biplane era, and much about aeronautics had been learned in the few preceeding years. It flies beautifully with feet flat on the floor. I know my Bonanza has spoiled me to the point where stick and rudder skills can be a bit sloppy and the Bonanza makes it look easy. I didn't expect the same level of "forgiveness" from such an old design. Pretty impressive.

Tim, these two guys are absolute perfectionists with all of their airplanes- But I've never seen a violin they made! You're still at the top of the list!

304065 05-27-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 6046334)
I know my Bonanza has spoiled me to the point where stick and rudder skills can be a bit sloppy and the Bonanza makes it look easy.

Well, that depends on whether it's straight or V-tail and your proximity to turbulence!

One of my first airplane rides ever was from Falcon Field to the Grand Canyon in an old V-tail. In the way-back. I could have used a caging knob for my eyeballs.

Great photos and story!

Tim Hancock 05-27-2011 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dantilla (Post 6046334)
Nope. This one was rebuilt from the cage on up. 1934 if I remember correctly.

Oops my bad.... I should have known better than to ASSume. :D

Dantilla 05-27-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 304065 (Post 6046772)
Well, that depends on whether it's straight or V-tail and your proximity to turbulence!

One of my first airplane rides ever was from Falcon Field to the Grand Canyon in an old V-tail. In the way-back. I could have used a caging knob for my eyeballs.

Great photos and story!

Both of the short-cabin Bonanzas, V-tail and straight -tail, will wiggle in turbulence. The V-tail wiggles a bit more, but they are very similar. Not much is felt in the front seats, as you're sitting on the pivot point. The rear seaters, however, are continually tossed to and fro.

If I have any back seat passengers in rough air, simply resting one foot on a rudder pedal knocks out 90% of the wiggle. Might loose a knot or two in airspeed, but that sure beats cleaning up a used lunch off the carpets. So far (knock, knock), nobody has had to use the barf bags kept in the seat pockets.

widgeon13 05-27-2011 09:05 AM

My son has a V tail, they were known as the "doctor killers".

t6dpilot 05-27-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by widgeon13 (Post 6047204)
My son has a V tail, they were known as the "doctor killers".

Forked tail doctor killer, sir. For all you Beech fans out there, you need to visit Tullahoma, TN in mid October for the annual Beech Party. Used to be the site of the just the Staggerwing Club and Fly-In for many years. Then expanded to include the Twin Beech and expanded the museum as well. More recently, the Bonanza and T-Bones have been included to make it a total Beech Museum and annual Fly-In. You need to check it out - nice clean, low key fun.

Been going off and on since I was a kid. My most fun moment...? Flying the cocktail hour entertainment - low passes...:p

Tim Hancock 05-27-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by t6dpilot (Post 6047288)
For all you Beech fans out there, you need to visit Tullahoma, TN in mid October for the annual Beech Party. Used to be the site of the just the Staggerwing Club and Fly-In for many years.

Pretty sure that is where Tony Barnum's P&W 985 powered '38 yellow Staggerwing has been living for at least the last ten years on display (last I heard he had donated or loaned it to the museum). Tony is a local famous (infamous? :D) long time airplane guy... I used to keep my airplanes at his grass strip near Waterville Ohio (R.I.P. Rocky Ridge Airport :(). He only flew it a handful of times in the several years I was there, but each time he did, he would barely use 1/2 of his 1800' grass strip. :eek:

Tony had a very colorful history in aviation. He was a navy pilot early in life IIRC and he is loaded with stories like recovering a Mallard from a jungle and flying it home across the Pacific with 55 gallon jury rigged auxillary fuel tanks (he has owned nearly half of all Mallards at one point or another). Ski flying in a Cub in a blizzard to save a woman who was in labor. Flipping a PBY in a river. Buying and flying home an old open cockpit New Standard bi-plane cross country in the winter.

t6dpilot 05-27-2011 11:25 AM

Cool story Tim. Yeah, that Staggerwing is still there I think - althought they did recently sell one of the long time museum residents to someone who restored it. Now that I think of it, that may have been the one. I had presented a program to the museum board (of which I am an honored trustee), to fly and display three airplanes to help generate interest in the museum. IIRC, this was the Staggerwing that I recommended we use (in addition to a Twin Beech and a very historic Model 35 Bonanza). The idea never went forward, but that sure is a nice Staggerwing. The B model Staggerwing is the toughest taildragger I have ever flown...

Tim Hancock 05-27-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by t6dpilot (Post 6047453)
Cool story Tim. Yeah, that Staggerwing is still there I think - althought they did recently sell one of the long time museum residents to someone who restored it. Now that I think of it, that may have been the one. I had presented a program to the museum board (of which I am an honored trustee), to fly and display three airplanes to help generate interest in the museum. IIRC, this was the Staggerwing that I recommended we use (in addition to a Twin Beech and a very historic Model 35 Bonanza). The idea never went forward, but that sure is a nice Staggerwing. The B model Staggerwing is the toughest taildragger I have ever flown...

The last time I knew of him flying it locally, he was flying it along with another NW Ohio guy in a T6 (Jerry Deaton) to an airshow in Kalamazoo Michigan. When he lowered the gear, the T6 pilot confirmed that his tail wheel did not retract..... Tony thought it over and then wheel landed the beast while dragging brake to keep the tail off the pavement. Once slowed up a bit while keeping the tail up, he manuevered onto grass then gently lowered the tail causing very minimal damage only to the gear door.

While most experienced taildragger pilots can envision maybe trying something like this in a cub or Citabria type plane, he did this with a gorgeous 450hp beast that he probably only had flown once or twice in the prior 12 months. :eek:


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