sleeping bag versus "quilt".

[vash]

oh, man. while searching sleeping bags..i stumbled across this. i sometimes feel no matter what sleeping bag you use, you can wake in the middle of the night feeling sweaty. no ventilation. you then have to stick a leg out as a "radiator", and then you get cold rapidly.

i stumbled across backpacking quilts. this company is supposed to be the best, and a 0 degree quilt weights 1.5lbs!! looks like they were designed to be used in backpacking hammocks. i'm calling them today.

Jacks R Better-Rectangular Quilts

versus this sleeping bag: marmot plasma +15 at 1.9lbs,.

Marmot Plasma +15 Sleeping Bag - Free Shipping for Members at REI.com

anyone using a quilt? REI sale ends the 30th..so i gotta make a move.

[M.D. Holloway]

Of all the times I have gone camping, I only used a sleeping bag once - I always use quilts.

[McLovin]

you know you want it

[Evans, Marv]

Actually one of the best sleeping systems I ever had was the REI Caribou. They don't make it anymore (since the early '90s), but for summer camping & backpacking where temps maybe got down just around freezing, I liked it the best. The one I had was a 2 person, and I don't remember if they made a 1 person now or not. It consisted of a zippered envelope where you slid your sleeping pad into it. The sleeping bag was rectangular and opened up to zip onto the sleeping pad envelope. It had synthetic filling and you could use it like a normal sleeping bag or with the ground pad envelope. It was nice for the temperate season but could be made warmer by doing things like putting your parka on top or inside. Basically that kind of system is what you are talking about, so see if one is available from somewhere now days.

[gassy]

Can't you just spoon the guy you're going with?

[id10t]

Best sleeping "bag" I've used here in mild N Fla was a sheet that was sewn to a GI poncho liner

[RWebb]

I've always used a bag + liner and add a bivy sack on top of that if needed. Unzip the bag from the bottom up and you can adjust across a wide range of temperatures.

[gtc]

I'd go with the marmot... that thing just looks like a sleeping bag without a zipper or hood.

I have the Marmot Pinnacle, which is their 800 fill 15 degree bag. It is really nice and really freaking warm. In retrospect, I should have bought a 25 or 30 degree bag and used a liner for really cold nights. I don't do enough high alpine camping to need the 15 degree rating.

[porsche4life]

If you are worried about it getting cold at high altitude, get the mummy bag. You WILL regret not being able to zip that quilt shut. 11k ft in the middle of june can get cold, I was barely comfortable in my Kelty +15 bag in NM....

[vash]

also looking at a Westerm Mountianeering +20 bag.

just talked the Jack at the quilt place. interesting conversation. he said, his best quilt is 1.5lbs. freakin light!!

he was saying even the best mummy bags, the loft you are laying on is squished and will provide Zero insulation. that is the theory with the quilt. you simply cover yourself, and tuck it under you..(on a good pad of course).

he said his "high sierra" model was the one for me. curious as i am going into the high sierras.

man, i am confused. i will go and lay in the marmot tonight..on the floor of my local REI.

[azasadny]

Nice marmot!!! I prefer a poncho liner!!!

[vash]

i might be chalk full of worthless sleeping bag data.

leaning hard towards a Feather Friends Swift +20 bag. sick bag, roomiest one i found, and only 2 lbs.

or a nanatuk arc quilt. i am soooo gonna blow the budget.

[Evans, Marv]

How about a buffalo robe? It was good enough for the indians.

[porsche4life]

Not very light....

[fuelie600]

Originally Posted by vash

he was saying even the best mummy bags, the loft you are laying on is squished and will provide Zero insulation. that is the theory with the quilt. you simply cover yourself, and tuck it under you..(on a good pad of course).

He's comparing compressed insulation to no insulation and saying no insulation is best? When you only sell hammers, every situation looks like a nail.

Quilts remind me of hospital gowns.....

[Evans, Marv]

When I would use a down mummy bag, after I got it out of the stuff bag I would hold it by the bottom (with the bottom up) and shake it to get a bunch of the down out of the bottom portion of the chambers & then lay it down on the sleeping pad, gently, bottom down. That would get some of the down away from the bottom the bag you would be sleeping on and make it available for insulation in the part covering you.

[porsche4life]

Make sure you un stuff the bag and let it relax for a dew hours if at all possible. As soon as your tent is set up, toss your sleeping bag inside.

[RWebb]

freudian slip!

a few hours, yes -- be sure that does not allow any dew to destroy the bag's insulation