heard it called Manyhapppyless. :rolleyes:
Yep I'm a prisoner of the so cal climate and car culture. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/s1b.gif
offer alternative locations with your Cal bash. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/ear.gif

I am sure it drives many of us nuts. None of us enjoy it. We just learn to deal with them. the good out weights the bad. I took my wife and kids to Hermosa beach today for lunch and hung out for 3 hours. No traffic and we were there within 35 minutes from our house. Came back before traffic start up again. it was 72 degrees there. Where else am I going to get that?

I can burn brush if I really want, I just can't have a huge bonfire. Smog for older cars without rolling exemption, is BS, but we still have our ways of getting around things. Cost a few pennies more, but we get them. shooting you say? I can shoot in my backyard and more then likely will not hit anyone ( in am in the middle of LA) because I have the whole hill side to myself. I am sure the gun laws are the same in all the major cities. You can't shoot on your property in NY, Chicago, Portland, and such. I do not own a gun, so it really doesn't matter. I am not anti guns BTW. You will be surprise to find out many of the *******s around here are from elsewhere in the country. Like many of my neighbors. There are many conservatives around in SoCal. Many are in the middle class neighborhoods. Next time you come across a young ******* around these parts, ask them where they are from. Nine out of ten people will tell you they are from elsewhere in the country.

To whom was this comment directed?

Now you got that off your chest, you must feel pretty good. so, please enjoy the next four or five months of sunshine.

anyone that wants to be constructive?

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I must have missed the memo. Wasn't this thread about wood burning fire places in California?

yeah, than some asshat from Minnesota popped his head in here

Denis, chill you're ruining the laid back CA image. Besides, he's probably never even been here.

I don't know how Tom got that he's from Minneapolis but if it's true it's hilarious. That's my hometown and I spend a fair amount of time there. Talk about a place that's really taken a schit in the last 40 years because it's run by socialist-leaning, regulation freak nannies. And the taxes are very high. At least the weather sucks hairy balls. You would probably have to move to the North Pole to find a worse climate, year-round. They have already had 100/100, (that's temp/humidity), in June and that's coming off a 6-month winter. And we're talking real winter, not 3 inches of snow and then it melts. No, we're talking drive your tractor-trailer across Lake Superior to the islands winter. :eek:

It was a good place to grow-up in the '60s and '70s for me and I still have a big connection to the place but as an adult it bores the living daylights out of me. I love living in L.A. and the regulations that Tim is referring to do not affect my life other than improving it. The air was unbreathable here 40 years ago and now it's clean, 100% the fault of govt. regulation. If left to the "free market", it would be like the air in industrial parts of China. No thanks, amigo...

Like all really big cities, it's expensive and not a good place for people who do not have above average earning power and/or a knack for living well in a big city. The biggest cry-baby on this board regarding CA. is PoP and the guy just has no game. He could not figure this place out. I live much better than I deserve to here on a bank account that's usually overdrawn. It might sound corny but there is an energy and a synergy in big cities that throws people together constantly in situations that create opportunities. I've had several this week alone. And I'm lazy compared to your average New Yorker, they come here and just tear it up. There is so much money and opportunity here that it's mind-blowing compared to most places. And one hell of a beautiful life for people who have the art of living. If you don't, all the $$ in the world won't help. You'll live in an ugly McMansion and bang low-class women.

I have family and friends who live as well as can be done in Minneapolis and my broke-ass life in L.A. blows it away, IMO. My cousins who live the story book life in MN., (awesome house in Kenwood, 4 kids @ SPA, etc.), were here last week to open a store. They had a party at the store and then we went to Chateu Marmont for dinner in the garden + drinks @ 11pm. These people are extremely well-traveled and they admitted that there is nothing in MN. that compares to even the little slice of L.A. I showed them.

Whatever. Enjoy where you live. I do. :cool:

Where else can you get up early in the morning, grab a few waves, then catch a private flight to Mammoth Mtn., ski all day, fly home, jump in the ocean for a few more waves and then dinner at Nobu?

in Alaska, you can ski on a glacier and go right off the end into the ocean to catch your own sushi

Okay, I'll give you that one... :D

Oh yeah? I can burn wood in my fireplace. :D

An old saying..."Gold is where you find it."

Anywhere you end up living, you make your life comfortable.
The wood burning in my county... depends on the grams of soot per hour your
fireplace puts out.
An open fireplace is around 38 grams. An EPA approved stove can be as low as
5 grams. We have one. I burn whenever I want to and haven't been snitched off yet.
I say snitched off because we actually have days that are "no burn days" no matter what kind of fireplace you have.

Truth.

You can make a great living in SoCal if you are able to make a great living in SoCal.

I am from Cincinnati, but lived in SoCal 1982-1985 and have been back in SoCal from 1990 to now.

My family/friends in Ohio, who knew me the first 18 years of my life, are shocked by how aggressive/confrontational my personality has become after 20+ years in SoCal. Especially when it comes to business matters.

I use the Cincinnati office of a national commercial real estate firm when buying properties in Cincinnati (partners with my brother who lives in Cincy). This firm of course has offices on the west coast. The west coast guys are slick/seasoned professionals who never seem to get offended during a deal. I have dealt with several of their west coast offices, the furthest away being the Palo Alto office. I bought an apartment building from the Palo Alto guys once, and all correspondence took place via fax. Not one telephone conversation. That is what you call no BS.

The Cincinnati office, by comparison, is a bunch of backwards, cautious, hayseeds. They are the most tentative negotiators I have ever encountered, always afraid of offending everybody and everything. It has been a pleasure doing business with them because they are so easy to manipulate.

California has the reputation for being laid back and passive but I think that the opposite is true. I believe that the cut throat, kill or be killed business environment in SoCal makes those who are successful here, the more perfect predator.

That being said, I have had enough. I feel like I am running as fast as I can run, and the split second that I stumble, somebody behind me is going to knock me down and run right over me. I even feel like that when approaching the gas pumps to refuel my car. There is seemingly ALWAYS somebody trying to get to that gas pump in front of you.

I don't want my daughter to grow up in this environment.

We are going to flee to Jacksonville, Florida 41 months from now. We flew down in April and May and looked at homes and lots in Ponte Vedra and St. Johns County.

OK, out of curiosity, how big of an emissions/health problem does burning wood in a fireplace in metropolitan Southern California warrant, anyway? When's the last time you had to fire up the fireplace because it was so freakin' cold? You know, because your house/apt/condo didn't have other means of being heated? Even before this legislation, it was rare enough for someone to be using a fireplace that it would stick out when you smelled it.

How much of a problem with particulate air quality is caused by other factors, like cars, trucks, etc? I mean, if you're serious about clamping down on airborne particulates, why not ban cars and trucks? Or at least restrict their use by banning them for 2 dozen days per winter.

Oh yeah, because maybe 1/10th of 1% of the population uses wood-burning fireplaces, and about 99.9% rely upon cars and trucks. We wouldn't want to actually make any changes that would inconvenience us. Showing once again it's not really about the issue claimed.

Allow me to retort:
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