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imcarthur 07-01-2011 03:39 AM

How Much Does It Cost To Make A Hit Song?
 
Interesting breakdown of the estimated costs to make a single hit song. Rihanna's 'Man Down'.

Writing: $18,000
Songwriter: $15,000
Producer: $20,000
Vocal Producer: $15,000
Mix/Master: $10,000
Roll out: $1,000,000

Total: $1,078,000

See: NPR Planet Money

Ian

PorscheGAL 07-01-2011 03:46 AM

Oh course, if she had the talent to actually write her own music $33,000 could have been saved. She is well known in pop circles, you have to wonder if it takes $1,000,000 to promote her, what does it cost for less known singers?

Mark Henry 07-01-2011 04:10 AM

"Friday" only cost Rebecca Blacks mom $4k.
You said "hit", you didn't say anything about a good song.

Justin Beaver is another youtube wonder.

imcarthur 07-01-2011 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Henry (Post 6110962)
"Friday" only cost Rebecca Blacks mom $4k.
You said "hit", you didn't say anything about a good song.

A YouTube viral 'hit' doesn't mean people are buying the CD - even though it might end up on iTunes for freak content. That's a different animal. For Rihanna, Def Jam probably did the whole circuit - launch parties, expensive video shoot (looks like Jamaica . . .), talk shows, limos, private jets . . .

Beiber is all about targeted promotion. Big $s spent there no doubt.

Ian

GH85Carrera 07-01-2011 04:38 AM

I have never heard any of those songs. I have never heard of Rihanna what type of music does he sing?

Now get off my lawn!

PorscheGAL 07-01-2011 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6110999)
I have never heard any of those songs. I have never heard of Rihanna what type of music does he sing?

Now get off my lawn!

Rihanna is a she. Honestly can't name any of her song, as I tend to listen to good music (classic rock). She is the one from the news last year that was beat up before a music awards show by her no talent singing boyfriend.

Kraftwerk 07-01-2011 06:05 AM

Black Sabbath's first album cost $700.00 to record. The rest is history.

GH85Carrera 07-01-2011 06:23 AM

I quit listening to the radio except on very rare occasions. There is only one classic rock station locally. They seem to be a rut and play the same 80 to 120 songs over and over and over and over. There is no reason to play "Blinded by the Light" 4 times in one week. I even wrote the station manager and complained. It did no good. I have Pandora One on my iPhone & computers. I can listen to 100% music for 3 bucks a month. And I don't have to listen to the obnoxious commercials.

widebody911 07-01-2011 06:26 AM

The song in question is horrible. I wish she would implode already and start doing pr0n.

PorscheGAL 07-01-2011 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6111148)
"Blinded by the Light"

Not my definition of classic rock. Zep, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, etc. That's my definition

GH85Carrera 07-01-2011 06:52 AM

Yep.

They play lots of ZZ Top Skynyrd & Stones then decide to play some weak song like that. And they don't play the Springsteen version it is the one by Manfred Man Earth Band! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/pukeface.gif

scottmandue 07-01-2011 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 6110979)
A YouTube viral 'hit' doesn't mean people are buying the CD -
Ian

My friends have been posting songs recorded in there living room on YouTube... one of them is a bass/drum solo that is a big hit in Chile... I tease him mercilessly about it Dude! Your a hit! Let's move to Chile!

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerk (Post 6111118)
Black Sabbath's first album cost $700.00 to record. The rest is history.

And wasn't Bostons first album recorded in someones basement?

scottmandue 07-01-2011 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6111200)
Yep.

They play lots of ZZ Top Skynyrd & Stones then decide to play some weak song like that. And they don't play the Springsteen version it is the one by Manfred Man Earth Band! http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/pukeface.gif

My new Hyundai came with XM radio... I swore "NO WAY AM I PAYING FOR RADIO!!!!!"

Then I started playing with it (the radio that is) $120 a year :rolleyes: but 200 stations crystal clear anywhere and most with no commercials.

Should come in handy on upcoming road trip.

imcarthur 07-01-2011 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 6111204)
recorded in someones basement?

The traditional recording industry has imploded because of home recording. Buy a nice powerful computer. Add ProTools + plugins + some misc hdwe - mics, mic pre's, a basic I/O controller, & anyone can record anywhere. But then you have to make it slick & sell it.

Ian

pwd72s 07-01-2011 09:23 AM

I'd bet the farm it didn't cost a million to make this hit...Oregon's rock anthem. :D

YouTube - ‪The KINGSMEN - Louie Louie - 45rpm‬‏

GH85Carrera 07-01-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 6111491)
I'd bet the farm it didn't cost a million to make this hit...Oregon's rock anthem. :D

YouTube - ‪The KINGSMEN - Louie Louie - 45rpm‬‏

That song proves lyrics are not the key to a big hit.

black73 07-01-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by imcarthur (Post 6110941)
Interesting breakdown of the estimated costs to make a single hit song. Rihanna's 'Man Down'.

Writing: $18,000
Songwriter: $15,000
Producer: $20,000
Vocal Producer: $15,000
Mix/Master: $10,000
Roll out: $1,000,000

Total: $1,078,000

See: NPR Planet Money

Ian

That last line should read: Payola: $1,000,000

pwd72s 07-01-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6111506)
That song proves lyrics are not the key to a big hit.

Truth....just having the youth of the nation thinking the lyrics are "dirty" did it then. Times have changed...for sure.

azasadny 07-01-2011 11:43 AM

How much does the AutoTune cost???

azasadny 07-01-2011 11:49 AM

Same here!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6111148)
I quit listening to the radio except on very rare occasions. There is only one classic rock station locally. They seem to be a rut and play the same 80 to 120 songs over and over and over and over. There is no reason to play "Blinded by the Light" 4 times in one week. I even wrote the station manager and complained. It did no good. I have Pandora One on my iPhone & computers. I can listen to 100% music for 3 bucks a month. And I don't have to listen to the obnoxious commercials.

Same here!!

tabs 07-01-2011 12:04 PM

One can not put a price on talent...

PorscheGAL 07-01-2011 12:18 PM

Yes, but the price for non talent is obviously $1,078,000

nostatic 07-01-2011 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 6111783)
How much does the AutoTune cost???

A variant on that is bundled with most recording software these days. I also have it built into a harmony effects footpedal :D

romad 07-01-2011 03:26 PM

What it takes to be a star...from the one of the greatest movies of all time

YouTube - ‪Crossroads Scene - O Brother, Where Art Thou? Movie (2000) - HD‬‏

spuggy 07-01-2011 04:23 PM

Quote:

How Much Does It Cost To Make A Hit Song?
Really not very much, according to Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty (the KLF, The Timelords, The Justified Ancients of Mu Mu - the guys who nailed a million pounds to wood, exhibited it as art and then burnt it all for a documentary - not to mention performed a thrash metal version of their ambient hit single at the Brit Music Awards, finishing by machine-gunning the audience with blanks at the end and announcing "The KLF have left the music industry" - after which they deleted their entire back catalog except for one album):

The Manual - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's right here The Manual

Bill and Jimmy have an "interesting" perspective on many things, including the pop industry.

targa911S 07-02-2011 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kraftwerk (Post 6111118)
Black Sabbath's first album cost $700.00 to record. The rest is history.

$700.00 in 1969 money.......

sammyg2 07-02-2011 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 6111204)

And wasn't Bostons first album recorded in someones basement?

Quote:

Tom Scholz started off in a makeshift band that included drummer Jim Masdea, lead guitarist Barry Goudreau, and vocalist Brad Delp. Unsatisfied with the live sound, the perfectionist Scholz disbanded the act and instead made demos in his home studio with Delp on vocals and Masdea on drums. The demos eventually attracted the attention of Epic Records.

Scholz was satisfied with the demos to the point that he wanted to finalize them to a real album. Unfortunately, Epic declined. "The material had to be recorded in a 'professional' studio in exactly the same way!" Scholz later wrote. Scholz insisted on doing the re-cuts in his basement. Epic producer John Boylan, who had worked with the Little River Band among many others, made a deal with Scholz. Boylan would have the rest of the makeshift band record some studio arrangements in Los Angeles, to "create a diversion" while Scholz made his multitrack recordings at home.

Most of the instrumentation was performed by Scholz and recorded at his basement studio in Massachusetts, After Scholz recorded the instrumentation the tracks were then transferred from his 12 track tapes to a 24 track machine in a remote recording truck outside his basement studio to make them compatible with standard professional studio equipment. Delp's vocals were then recorded at Capitol Studios in Hollywood with producer Boylan. The album was then mixed by Scholz, Boylan and Warren Dewey at Westlake Audio in Los Angeles. Drummer Sib Hashian plays on all but "Rock & Roll Band", and only two tracks feature the contributions of Goudreau and Fran Sheehan, "Foreplay/Long Time" and "Let Me Take You Home Tonight". This quintet would perform and tour under the name Boston.
I talked to Tom Scholz on the phone when they were in the studio recording a later album. Actually a guy I worked with was friends with tom and was talking to him and handed me the phone so I could say hey.
Tom told there were some crazy guys recording down the hall that kept busting things up and making too much noise, some band called the Cars. I think that was sometime around '78.

wdfifteen 07-02-2011 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6111506)
That song proves lyrics are not the key to a big hit.

Actually, the song tells a story that makes more sense than a lot of rock hits. In the earlier versions of the song you could actually hear the lyrics. I think the unique sound of a bunch on drunks in a basement trying to wreck a trap set is what made the Kingsmen's version a hit.


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