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MotoSook 07-08-2011 07:10 AM

The USPO and rural routes...one way to save ourselves $$
 
Ourselves being the US Government and the the tax payers.

I live in what one might consider a rural part of the county and we still get FedEx and UPS delivered by the respective companies. Sometimes these companies show up in an Enterprise rental van...don't know what that's about, but I can't imagine how these rural deliveries are really that profitable for the carriers. Not only residential deliveries, but commercial deliveries (up to a certain size and weight) would apply here. Our company operates in some far out places where UPS and FedEx comes out to deliver the one or two packages a day or week.

Effective? Not really, but what if the USPO contracted with FedEx and UPS to deliver these smaller packages on their normal routes for a cut of the fee? It would be a savings to the carriers and and profit to the USPO!

Instead of driving way out to deliver one or two packages that cost more in fuel, FedEx or UPS can simply drop off the stuff to a USPO and the federal route drivers would take it from there. Perhaps it'll add a day to the delivery time, but the savings could be passed onto the customer. And if the package must be there in short time...the USPO can manage that too!

Just thinking/typing out load as I'm waiting for a UPS package to be delivered.

Hugh R 07-08-2011 07:15 AM

Fedex and UPS show up with an Enterprise rental van when their regular van breaks down. Might save some money. 99% of the mail I get now a days is junk mailers and fliers. They should eliminate Saturday deliveries, but the Congress won't let them.

MotoSook 07-08-2011 07:17 AM

I agree with eliminating Saturday deliveries. As for junk mail....they still pay.

Dantilla 07-08-2011 07:19 AM

A week or so ago I was at my semi-rural Post Office, and there was a FedEx truck parked out back.

When I made some wise-crack comment, I was told that the USPO does work together with UPS and FedEx when it is beneficial.

id10t 07-08-2011 08:16 AM

Yup, and sometimes FedUp will finish a package's shipping by sending it USPS ...

BeyGon 07-08-2011 08:20 AM

Without that junk mail paying the bills USPS would really be in a hole,

VaSteve 07-08-2011 08:25 AM

they do that in Alaska...read it somewhere. We shouldn't. End Saturday delivery. For us office jocks its the only day I'm home to get mail. Eliminate the low mail day: Tuesday.

campbellcj 07-08-2011 08:42 PM

I would be totally fine with only getting mail 2-3 days a week.

Danny_Ocean 07-08-2011 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 6123617)
Yup, and sometimes FedUp will finish a package's shipping by sending it USPS ...

It's called "Smart Post". Cheaper than ground, delivered "last mile" by USPS:

Low Weight Residential Shipping & Returns – FedEx SmartPost®

WolfeMacleod 07-08-2011 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by campbellcj (Post 6125013)
I would be totally fine with only getting mail 2-3 days a week.

As a busines owner, I would not.
I can't stand Federal holidays because of the lack of mail service. 4th of July delayed our production schedule becasue a package containing parts waited till Tuesday to arrive. Memorial Day caused the same issue.

Porsche-O-Phile 07-09-2011 02:10 AM

Eliminating Saturday delivery and many under-performing post offices is one of the recommendations in the "Moment of Truth" report issued by the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform.

wdfifteen 07-09-2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6123457)

Instead of driving way out to deliver one or two packages that cost more in fuel, FedEx or UPS can simply drop off the stuff to a USPO and the federal route drivers would take it from there. Perhaps it'll add a day to the delivery time, but the savings could be passed onto the customer. And if the package must be there in short time...the USPO can manage that too!

Interesting idea. I'll bet it would work.

JeremyD 07-09-2011 07:27 AM

Average postal worker makes around 48,000 in salary - and 40,000 in benefits (insurance and retirement)

MotoSook 07-09-2011 04:39 PM

Ouch!

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Average postal worker makes around 48,000 in salary - and 40,000 in benefits (insurance and retirement)

john70t 07-09-2011 08:16 PM

The USPO is a self-sustaining entity, according to their literature. Glad that some things are managed properly in gub'ment. Now if they could just label all their stamps with a numerical value, and increase rates by increments of 5 cents at a time...

tip: If sending books and other media, ask for media mail rates.

HardDrive 07-09-2011 08:45 PM

We could easily get by on mail delivery only 3 times a week. Maybe less.

campbellcj 07-10-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfeMacleod (Post 6125049)
As a busines owner, I would not.
I can't stand Federal holidays because of the lack of mail service. 4th of July delayed our production schedule becasue a package containing parts waited till Tuesday to arrive. Memorial Day caused the same issue.

Good argument for tiered service. Many businesses count on the postal system and pay thousands or millions a year in postage. Let businesses and PO boxes get delivery daily, residences a few times a week.

TheMentat 07-10-2011 09:48 PM

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<div style="font-style:italic">As a busines owner, I would not.<br>
I can't stand Federal holidays because of the lack of mail service. 4th of July delayed our production schedule becasue a package containing parts waited till Tuesday to arrive. Memorial Day caused the same issue.</div>
</div>Good argument for tiered service. Many businesses count on the postal system and pay thousands or millions a year in postage. Let businesses and PO boxes get delivery daily, residences a few times a week.
I agree. Nobody I know uses the post office for time sensitive items.

jyl 07-11-2011 03:55 AM

What do you do with a business like Wolfe's, that is located in a residential area? Does Wolfe identify himself to the USPO as a business? What's to stop his neighbor from doing to same, just to get 6 day/week delivery? If the mail carrier has to visit the Wolfe's on his route 6 days/week, does that really save the USPO much money?

MotoSook 07-11-2011 04:52 AM

Why doesn't Wolfe use FedEx or UPS? Or pick up at the USPO (does he have a PO BOx for the business?)? Not picking on Wolfe, but if the service was cut back to 3-5 days/week, I think we'd all realign our schedules.

wdfifteen 07-11-2011 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6128457)
Why doesn't Wolfe use FedEx or UPS?

The cheapest Fed Ex rate to send a letter to Missoula, Montana from here in Ohio (3 day delivery) is $26.45. The USPS rate is 44 cents.

MotoSook 07-11-2011 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 6128533)
The cheapest Fed Ex rate to send a letter to Missoula, Montana from here in Ohio (3 day delivery) is $26.45. The USPS rate is 44 cents.

Why does it have to be sent via USPO or FEDEX? Can't a letter that is so time sensitive be faxed or scanned and e-mailed?

44 cents with the USPO doesn't guarantee 3 day service.

Really, if the mail only came 3 days a week, we would all adjust and use FedEx and the like for when it really has to be sent in a rush....or the USPO would continue expedited service and charge the same or less.

wdfifteen 07-11-2011 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6128547)
Why does it have to be sent via USPO or FEDEX?

I don't know. You asked why wolf doesn't use UPS or FED EX instead of the USPO. The reason in the price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6128547)
Can't a letter that is so time sensitive be faxed or scanned and e-mailed?

A huge volume of my mail is now emailed. It is another option that most businesses use a lot. But the USPS and other delivery services are is still required from time to time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6128547)
44 cents with the USPO doesn't guarantee 3 day service.

Yeah, the USPS rate is $4.95 if you have to have it there in 3 days, 44 cents if you aren't in a hurry. FED EX is $26.45 if you have to have it there in 3 days, and $26.45 if you aren't in a hurry.

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Originally Posted by Soukus (Post 6128547)
Really, if the mail only came 3 days a week, we would all adjust and use FedEx and the like for when it really has to be sent in a rush....or the USPO would continue expedited service and charge the same or less.

It would be fine with me if they dropped Saturday delivery. Three days a week isn't enough.

MotoSook 07-11-2011 06:15 AM

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I don't know. You asked why wolf doesn't use UPS or FED EX instead of the USPO. The reason in the price.
Right...that's in a ddition to 3 day USPS service. I can't imagine running a business and not have an account with FEDEX or UPS in addition to using the USPS. I've done it. If I can't get it to the destination with the USPS in the right timeframe, it gets expedited with a commercial carrier.

There is a lot of service offered, not being utilized by the majority (by the minority) and it's costing the majority $. Businesses and citizens would adjust. It's not like in 1975 where we don't have options....


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