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john70t 07-08-2011 11:18 AM

Stalking
 
Corporations are people.

At any moment in time, Quantcast, Clearspring, Specific Media, Interclick, McDonald's, CBS, Mazda Motor of America, Microsoft, and many other corporations could be standing outside your internet window, staring in, and tugging on their advertizing income potential.

Did you know Adobe Flash keeps hidden cookies that aren't erased by browsers even after deleting "history"?
No, you probably didn't.
These special cookies are called "Local Stored Objects". Only Adobe can see them. Or Adobe's friends. You can't.
Larry Ellison's company decided to use your hard drive for storage.
Hope you don't mind.
Your private habits. Your data. Your computer. Their access.

Good luck finding START-->PROGRAMS-->FLASH-->ERACE HISTORY.
It doesn't exist.

Adobe Flash is like ceiling cat which only shows its face when it wants to.
The other times it stays hidden.....waiting....

In order to delete this information off your hard drive, you have to connect to the internet, allow scripts, and go to their Adobe website: Adobe - Flash Player : Settings Manager - Global Privacy Settings Panel.
Didn't know that? Huh.

Law Technology News: History Sniffing Code Collides With Privacy Concerns
"In 2009 academic researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, School of Law published a report finding that more than 50 percent of the popular websites in their sample were using Flash cookies to store user information and preferences and that some sites were even using technology that "respawned" cookies after they were deleted."

The courts may be allowing this stalking of individuals by other "individuals":
Does Dismissal of Flash Cookie Case Against Specific Media Signal Smoother Sailing for Targeted Advertising? : Privacy and Security Law Blog
-"In dismissing, the Court concluded Plaintiffs never actually alleged Specific Media tracked them personally, or that they suffered harm from the alleged practices"....
-"In particular, to support a claim under the CFAA, plaintiffs must have suffered economic losses totaling at least $5,000 in a one-year period."

azasadny 07-09-2011 07:05 AM

There is no privacy on the Interwebs...

widebody911 07-09-2011 07:08 AM

CCleaner - Cleaning Flash cookies

widebody911 07-09-2011 07:10 AM

If I were to surreptitiously install tracking s/w on an x-girlfriend's computer, I'd be in jail.

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 6124027)
The courts may be allowing this stalking of individuals by other "individuals":
Does Dismissal of Flash Cookie Case Against Specific Media Signal Smoother Sailing for Targeted Advertising? : Privacy and Security Law Blog
-"In dismissing, the Court concluded Plaintiffs never actually alleged Specific Media tracked them personally, or that they suffered harm from the alleged practices"....
-"In particular, to support a claim under the CFAA, plaintiffs must have suffered economic losses totaling at least $5,000 in a one-year period."


john70t 07-09-2011 07:45 AM

As per that court ruling, she'd have to prove it was you(not some website she'd visited), and that she lost over $5,000 as a result.

Stalk away, individual.

wdfifteen 07-09-2011 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 6124027)
Corporations are people.

That is a chilling statement. With "too big to fail" and the recent supreme court ruling allowing corporations to unlimited funding for campaigns, corporations are becoming Super People.

MDH 07-09-2011 06:26 PM

SkyNet.............................


or have I seen too many Terminator movies???:confused:

id10t 07-09-2011 06:39 PM

rm -rf ~/.adobe
mkdir ~/.adobe
chmod -w .adobe

and there is a bunch of stuff pointing to 0.0.0.0 in /etc/hosts

RWebb 07-09-2011 08:33 PM

yeh great - what about Windoze?

HardDrive 07-09-2011 09:36 PM

I don't care.

I like news, occasional shopping for motorcycle bits, and porn. If hidden cookies can get me any of these services faster or cheaper, great. Why the F am I searching for 'japanese school girl lesbians'? I was automation dammit!!!! :D

id10t 07-10-2011 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 6126514)
yeh great - what about Windoze?

Should be under c:\users\username\application data\adobe

Not sure how to change the file permissions though... been a long time since I used windows.

campbellcj 07-10-2011 07:59 PM

As Art said, everything on the Internet is visible to somebody. If you want privacy, go off grid and move to a shack in the back country.

What does Larry Ellison have to do with Adobe? Nothing as far as I know, but maybe I missed some news?

svandamme 07-12-2011 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campbellcj (Post 6128096)
As Art said, everything on the Internet is visible to somebody. If you want privacy, go off grid and move to a shack in the back country.

What does Larry Ellison have to do with Adobe? Nothing as far as I know, but maybe I missed some news?

That's what i thought, Ellison is CEO/co-founder of Oracle, not Adobe

RWebb 07-12-2011 11:10 AM

shown are some of the 37 files on my system that may be or contain the issues discussed above

the file path shown is the part after the User Name - I don't know if this is the "right" path or not, I just chose the Roaming fork

CCleaner did NOT remove these, even tho I checked Adobe Flash under the Applications tab on the newest version - I did leave Firefox and Chrome browsers open to prevent any loss of those caches for this particular cleaning


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1310497782.jpg

john70t 07-13-2011 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by campbellcj (Post 6128096)
As Art said, everything on the Internet is visible to somebody. If you want privacy, go off grid and move to a shack in the back country.

That is the often-repeated rationale, which I believe is incorrect.

To counter with an equally-cliche one, since "being in public doesn't deserve a reasonable expectation of privacy", would it be ok if someone parked across the street and followed your children to school, taking pictures through the open air, identifying their friends, who they associate with, where they go and when, and then following them back to your driveway, week after week...?

No?
That's exactly what databases do.

Another counter-argument analogy would be a business contract. When I go on the internet, I willfully engage in a temporary contract with "x" website(let's say japaneseschoolgirllesbians dotcom) to receive pictures and data. I didn't contract with a seperate company, nor was I even provided the knowledge that a third party website was involved. I certainly didn't give permission to those third parties to monitor and record my browsing history.

You might even consider my web browsing to be intellectual property, and so monitoring it would be theft! Viewing other "individuals" media without consent involves the FBI and half a million per incident in damages.
Why doesn't the general public have the same rights?


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