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herr_oberst 07-09-2011 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nostatic (Post 6126235)
Sprinkers in half the turns.

That come on randomly. . .

Henry Schmidt 07-09-2011 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cornpanzer (Post 6126448)
snip......
I would agree that Red Bull have some little secret which is making them dominant, but it is not due to some advantage from the FIA.

Red Bulls little secret is no secret at all.
Adrien Newey (Newey Design) has a hand in the design of both Red Bull and Torro Rosso. The data from the junior team gives them the advantage of testing theory twice as fast. Of course this is OMHO......

How you say.......... ban on testing?

Captain Ahab Jr 07-10-2011 01:44 PM

sammy its a very different view when looking from the outside in, I'm on the inside and the view is very different from where I'm sitting.

There was no dirty little secret with the Brawn, they just found a loophole in how the new diffuser rules were written and built their car around this while other teams dropped the ball and didn't spot it or were afraid to exploit it.

Also there is no secret with the Redbull, its no suprise its the quickest as they have an exceptional talent in Adrian Newey. His understanding of aerodynamics is in a class of its own as shown last year and this year.

Sorry to shatter your conspiracy theories

legion 07-10-2011 07:03 PM

They need to get rid of the stupid in-season testing ban.

Anyone notice that all of the "cost saving measures" really make the sport way more expensive?

Now only a team that can afford to run both a junior and senior team can be competitive, because they can "test" every race with the junior car.

Of course, the FIA will probably just mandate "separated" operations for junior and senior teams...

svandamme 07-12-2011 10:36 AM

For me they should throw all regulations out the window, and just put up some kind of fuel economy handicap rules..

Eg qualifying gives you a time AND a fuel economy handicap based on your Qualifying laps..
For instance #1 get's the pole but if he burnt to much fuel, he looses 3 Gallons of starting fuel
#2 get's the second spot, but because he had good fuel economy, he's got full tanks.

And put some penalty on the pitstops as well, like use slow pumps or something.


Bad engine design, bad setup, High downforce = bad Fuel Economy = handicap

Allow full energy recuperation systems, kers, eletric boosters, solar panels frigging anything that produces power other then combustion...

They have always said, that if challenged to it, they would make F1 cars run on water.
Well... Challenge them already !

scottmandue 07-12-2011 11:27 AM

Can't believe they are still regulating tires... cost savings? On tires? Seriously? With their budgets?

And mount rocket launchers on the cars.

herr_oberst 07-12-2011 11:44 AM

Tire regulations are the same as engine/tranny regs. Not about cost, it's about improving the show. You only get so many so you have to develop strategy to use them to your advantage throughout the course of qualifying and the race.
Friday tires are free, use as many sets as you like. if I understand the regs correctly.

scottmandue 07-12-2011 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 6131291)
Tire regulations are the same as engine/tranny regs. Not about cost, it's about improving the show. You only get so many so you have to develop strategy to use them to your advantage throughout the course of qualifying and the race.
Friday tires are free, use as many sets as you like. if I understand the regs correctly.

I specifically don't like that they make them run two different compounds in the same race. Limit the number of tires no problem... but make them run hard and soft tires... silly IMHO.

jyl 07-12-2011 08:03 PM

The problem with giving the teams a free hand in design is that the cars would be too fast for safety especially at the older tracks, also you might end up with the Can-Am syndrome (awesome cars, but the same one wins all the time.


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