New Apple Operating System: 10.7 "Lion"
 

Just did a clean install. Overall I'm very impressed. My only complaint is the fact that they screwed up spaces and expose and turned it into "mission control." I also got rid of the optical drive in my mac and purchased a 40GB SSD from OWC which houses the "OS" and I have my 500GB 7200RPM which houses the "data." Overall, the OS is lightening fast on my three year old macbook pro. Well worth the $30 for an upgrade...They should deffinitely fix spaces though.

no bugs? looking forward to it, been reading about it....and it's cheap

I want but the speed of my connection, probably take a day to download 4 GB. Maybe in a week or so.

I like that they did away with the family pack and the $30 is valid for every iTunes authorized computer that have.

Nice.

Damn I wish I knew more about puters. I'd try installing

Mark, if you can click, you can install.

Hey Shaun
I guess I'm more concerned on what happens to the other OS things like that. And the guys concerns over some window thingies :confused:

If I buy it once can I put it on both my macs? Maybe I'll just get the thumb drive from apple.

Yes. Just needs to be authorized to the iTunes account.

Not true. You just have to log into the App Store on the machine you want to install it on, and it will recognize it as a previous purchase and allow you to download and install it.

The account is linked to your iTunes account for payment, but there is no concept of "authorized computer" in the App Store like there is in iTunes.

The license says you can install it on any computer you own or control.

I've just upgraded 5 machines in my home office, and 3 of them have never run iTunes, never mind been an iTunes authorized computer.

EDIT: To be clear, I interpreted your comment to mean you have to have an iTunes authorized computer, which is a specific requirement for some audio books, etc., as I've seen others mention. If that wasn't your meaning, apologies... just trying to add clarification.

Correct, should have said needs authenticating with your Apple ID.

Also, if you download it on one computer, quit the installer when it automatically launches, and look under your Applications folder. You'll see the installer file. You can copy that to other machines and install from it if you don't want to re-download the installer every time.

Once you've copied it, go ahead and re-launch it, and carry on with your installation.

And if you have multiple Macs in an environment and want to set up your own local update server, rather than have each machine download from Apple, I'd recommend looking at Reposado

https://github.com/wdas/reposado

It's a very cool set of Python scripts put together by Disney to allow you to set up a local update repository.

You can easily burn the file to a disk once you download it.

Go to Applications, right click "Install Lion" and select show package contents ->Contents -> SharedSupport and then COPY (NOT DRAG) InstallESD.DMG to your desktop. Then open disk utility (Application -> Utilities) and drag the InstallESD file to sidebar, once that is selected hit "burn" and insert a blank DVD.

You now have an installation disk. You can also do it to a 5GB flash drive as well. (Similar method but slightly different)

Buckterrier, I can walk you through it via PM if you want...Hell even the phone could work...You're about 45 mins away from me if worse comes to worst.

I highly recommend a clean installation if your mac is somewhat slowing down.

My impression so far of Lion is about a 9.5/10. I am starting to get used to mission control...Still not as good as Spaces, though!

The only problem I've run into is with Parallels, where it doesn't seem to attach the virtual machine window to any of the desktops. Simple fix (right click on the dock icon, options, all desktops), but was still a bit of a hiccup.

Just upgraded.

MS Office no longer works - it was an old version from the PowerPC days. Irritating that I have to pay $150 for Office X. I don't use Word or Excel or Powerpoint much at home - how are Apple's Pages or Numbers as alternatives? Will they open/edit/save Office files w/ problem?

Give OpenOffice a try. It's probably not as refined as Pages or Numbers, but it's free.

I've been using Pages and Numbers interchangeably with Office 2008 and both are great apps in their own right. If you don't have to send editable files to Windoze users, you will be more than fine with the Apple apps.

Just installed Lion. Some functions appear snappier... Mail is improved. so far so good.

So worth the $29?

For me, the jury is still out. Likely will have beaten on it sufficiently by Monday evening to know for sure.

My mouse scrolling is now backwards. Turned off natural scrolling and now its back to normal.

The new Mail app is so alien I couldn't do anything. Put it back into classic mode. Have it almost back to looking the old way.

Safari seems faster. I just hope its more stable.

Had to update my mail spam plug-in.

Will keep digging...

I'll let you guys beta test for awhile :p

From what I hear, you need to get the magic pad to really see the UI changes in Lion - multi finger gestures, swiping, twisting, pinching, etc like iOS - Apple is trying to converge iOS and Mac OS - Launchpad looks like iOS Home. full screen looks like iOS app mode, App Store looks like your iPhone's App Store

There is a master plan behind all this. Apple is leading the convergence of PC and smartphone and tablet.

I think in another few cycles, there will be a single OS for Apple, it will recognize what device it is running on, screen size of X and CPU type of Y and input device Z, and it will configure itself for the device and the app will too. Then instead of however many applications for Mac OS and however many apps for iOS today, there will be a huge number of apps for either and both. Developers writing for the converged Apple OS will be addressing a much larger user base than if they had to choose between writing for Macs or for iPhones separately.

Apple will be able to use either ARM or Intel CPUs as it wishes, at the same time ARMs will be far more powerful than today and Intels will be far more power-efficient than today (or Intel is in big trouble).

I imagine Apple will push this really hard in the coming few years. Microsoft is trying to catch up with Windows mobile but I'm not sure how far along it is in getting its PC and handset/tablet OS on the same code base. Google doesn't have a PC OS at all, although I guess Chrome is an effort.

My Time Machine backups have stopped working. I had been backing up to an Iomega NAS device. Apparently Apple has updated the netatalk protocol and won't allow the OS to talk to older devices anymore. An update will be needed for the NAS device before they will work again. I can still use it for file storage but Time Machine and using NAS for remote iTunes storage stopped working.

My verdict: Big pile of steaming dog doo. I don't use a touchpad 99% of the time, so all that stuff is not going to benefit me. Safari keeps crashing, with frequent spinning beach balls. I have to keep resetting my cable modem when internet performance lags. Switching between apps is taking too long... there's some serious memory performance issues. Machine has crashed too much. Blah, blah, blah.

Did you do a clean install or just an upgrade?

Winner winner Chicken dinner !

With a mouse it's not all that big a development. In fact I think I liked the old interface better, looks wise (grey scroll bars, ugh). Mail is noticeably better, autosave is good, the autocorrect is not bad either. That was pretty much the extent of Lion for me for me...

But then I saw a friend at work with with a track pad, gesturing away like a fool, and it looked pretty cool, in a "minority report" kind of way (the scene when T.Cruise uses gestures to move stuff around his giant holographic screen). Pinch this, maximize that, slide from app to app, very elegant. It takes some retraining for sure... Friend said it took him 3 days to rewire his brain to the upside down scrolling metaphor ;-)

$29, not bad...

Downloaded the upgrade.

I had zero crashes, but noticed some performance issues initially. Starcraft 2 for instance was dog slow, 4 Fps... Opening Photoshop was slower.

I read later that Lion needs some time to do some major reindexing for spotlight, and it does this in the background, slowing everything down. Sure enough all was well the next day.

Let's be honest though, it's not a MUST UPGRADE deal. If you don't use a track pad and can wait a few months till they patch it some more, it'll probably be an easier experience.

I think he was asking did you backup then wipe the drive and do a fresh install or did you just run the install on top of Snow Leopard.