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Hugh R 08-15-2011 02:24 PM

This is how we build scaffold and truss and face it with foam and plaster. This is the end of National Treasure 2.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1313446966.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1313447005.jpg

jeffgrant 08-15-2011 03:26 PM

I read on another site that off-duty firefighters in the crowd, 150-200 yards away, said that the guy wires failed. They were also showing in hi-res pics from earlier in the day.

And here's an interesting breakdown of the time line.

http://www.theindychannel.com/download/2011/0814/28862249.pdf

strupgolf 08-15-2011 06:20 PM

I did'nt see any trusses holding the whole rig up. It was just supported on the beams. It's sad to see loss of life, but if I were standing near there at the time, I would have looked up to see the MASSIVE storm cloud coming at us. I would have said "it's time to seek shelter"The guy who worked up on the top, he should have been told to come down long before the wind. Maybe I'm just old, and I've seen these kinds of storms in the past, but to anyone else, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE WEATHER", It's not good.

pete3799 06-16-2012 02:57 PM

Another one
Toronto stage collapse kills 1 before scheduled Radiohead concert - World News

lane912 06-18-2012 06:57 AM

http://juliusmediagroupptyltd.createsend1.com/t/ViewEmail/r/DD1D5157A5CA1EE4/89EF4D398FC0B6B1E663AB054A538FBA

The LightNetwork

lane912 06-18-2012 06:59 AM

unofficial report that the drum tech for radiohead was the person that lost their life-

kaisen 06-18-2012 07:02 AM

I think that was made official on Saturday

Rick Lee 06-18-2012 07:31 AM

I was walking onto a plane to go to Denver to see Rush at Red Rocks about three yrs. ago, when a buddy already in Denver called to say the show had been canceled due to weather. This was probably 8-10 hrs. before the show. When I got to Denver, the weather was fine. But they had had lightning and they had to make a decision before unloading all the gear. I was pretty bummed and I couldn't go back for the make-up show. But better safe than sorry.

fritzgator 06-18-2012 06:05 PM

Third on my list of ways to die on the job. Had two friends @ collapses last summer. Guitar tech for Cheap Trick, and drummer for Sugarland. I hope i don't have any close calls this summer. Oh, BTW
#1&2 are bus accident and airplane falling out the sky rapidly.

72doug2,2S 06-19-2012 03:33 AM

The State of Indiana paid out hundreds of thousands to the survivors of those who lost a loved one. They quickly enacted new regulations which require the fire Marshall to approve overhead stage structures over a certain number of feet.

Some blame Sugarland for not cancelling.

lane912 06-19-2012 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S (Post 6811385)
The State of Indiana paid out hundreds of thousands to the survivors of those who lost a loved one. They quickly enacted new regulations which require the fire Marshall to approve overhead stage structures over a certain number of feet.

Some blame Sugarland for not cancelling.

http://www.in.gov/sfc/files/041212_TT_Final_ISFC_Report.pdf

if you want to know what realy happened-

72doug2,2S 06-19-2012 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lane912 (Post 6811459)
http://www.in.gov/sfc/files/041212_TT_Final_ISFC_Report.pdf

if you want to know what realy happened-

Wow 1500 + pages.

This was particularly outrageous

Quote:

7.2.2.5 Misunderstanding of Jersey Barrier Configuration
The use of Jersey barriers as ballast is a practice that has been employed repeatedly at
the Indiana State Fair, yet it appears that those responsible for the design and erection
of the ISF Structure do not have a clear understanding of how the systems are utilized.
Allen Story states in his interview that the “Guy wire is a standard 45 degree angle” and
that “the Guy wires go in the same place every year”. Based on TT’s review of the site
and previous years’ configurations, it is apparent that none of the guy lines are oriented
at a 45 degree angle and that various configurations of guy lines have been used in the
past.

lane912 06-19-2012 11:27 AM

"Based on testing and calculation, it was determined the lateral load resisting system of the ISF
Structure as rigged on August 13, 2011 was capable of resisting winds speeds ranging from 25
miles per hour to 43 miles per hour (depending on wind direction)."



"Even if the ballast system had provided sufficient resistance, the synthetic webbing ratchet straps
and wire rope guy lines used did not have sufficient strength to resist forces resulting from the
North wind case under the wind loads of August 13, 2011 that were of a smaller magnitude than
the code-specified requirements."

"Even if the ballast system and guy line system had provided sufficient strength to resist the wind
loads, the “fin plate” connections to the structure did not have sufficient strength to resist forces
resulting from the North, West and Northwest wind cases under the wind loads of August 13,
2011 that were of a smaller magnitude than the code-specified requirements."

lane912 07-02-2012 02:16 PM

well here is another one--
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