Foreign students on j-1 protest work conditions here
 

Foreign students protest Hershey work conditions

This has been in the paper lately. Apparently when they signed up for the trip to America , they weren't all given jobs punching tickets at amusement parks. I'm having a hard time sympathizing.

Dont like it? Go back to your fuchin country!

Around here all the Jersey shore town have been taken over by these Eastern European kids. Actually all the shore town up and down the East coast and as far as key West. They work on the boardwalks and local stores and gift/souvenier shops. These are the jobs that have always been filled by the local kids. Now the locals are scrounging for work especially during the summer break.
The Eastern Europeans are the worst, they are arrogant, rude and nasty. They think who the hell they are. I would take the South of the border illegals over them anyday.

I never completely understood the J-1 rules. As far as I know the kids aren't forced into it. What are they expecting, to travel to the US, have all their expenses paid, and pocket 100% of there income? If there is a gripe, they should take it up with whoever placed them from their country. Giving someone an opportunity to work in whatever capacity and then having them be critical of job isn't the employers problem. My daughter worked all summer lifeguarding at our community pool for not much over minimum wage. She didn't have to but wanted to for extra money at school. She was lucky to find a job.

no ******* sympathy for them, none whatsoever!

They're just **** disturbers.

Send their asses home.... Fuch em..

Send them back from whence they came....

I don't know about furin-ers that come here but I do know my son is willing to take (and not b!tch) about any job he can get during college, better than not having spending cash.

I did a similar program in college and it was just about the same as these students are complaining about, but I turned it into a great thing. Back then Bayer was called Mobay in the US and they sent me to work at their HQ in Germany. They lined up an apt. for me too. The apt. was grossly overpriced and far from the nearest train station, such that, even after a long bike ride at 4am, the very first train of the day still got me to work 20 min. late. And I was put in a factory filling up 20 kg. sacks of mothball crystals, which were then made into those urinal deodorants. There were no Germans on my crew except for the foreman. How cultural was that? I worked with Turks, Serbs, Kosovar Albanians and Egyptians. Broken German was the common language. I got to do some really awful, dangerous repair work in the factory too. I ditched that apt. (I suspect my landlord was former SS) after one month for living within walking distance of the train station. I bought a beater motorcycle to ride to work on the days I had early shift. And I saved a ton of money. Ok, it did pay pretty well, but then I volunteered for the bad stuff and wasn't working in a library or office setting. But even if it hadn't paid well, I'd have known that going in and the thought of protesting would have been laughable. I never heard from Mobay in Pittsburgh again and extended my work program and visa on my own for a few more mos. until the semester started. And they took me back over spring break too. I saved up enough money to cover most of my next year's living expenses back in the states. It was AWESOME. One of the best things I ever did.

Let's see, doing unskilled labor for minumum wage as a summer job--involving manual work--welcome to every summer job I worked throughout high school and early college.

Quit yer whinin' and go back home if you don't like itSmileWavy

my gf's on a J1. she's busting ass doing waitress work. no sympathy for these ppl. if u don't like the job....GO WAIT TABLES!

anybody here know what the pay per hour (The US Dollar Equivalent) would be for the Ukraine Bcth if she had elected to stay home and work for the summer??

I have no idea how much the Ukraine "minumum wage" is, but would love to know if one of you guys is hip to that kind of info. :mad:

Maybe that Traitor living in Frogland will chime in and tell my how superior the former ussr states are to the USA...

I had a long chat with a lovely Moldovan girl who is working in Duck, NC this summer. She was *very* appreciative of the opportunity to work here in the States, despite having to walk to work in 90+ degree weather with 100% humidity from the crowded dormitory (full of other Moldovans) she was living in.

She mentioned that some of her dorm-mates were complaining about various aspects of their stay in the US--but she took a much more philosophical view of the situation. I believe her exact words were, "Back home, is s**thole."

I see everyone has a strong opinion, I guessing then you have not read some of the same articles I have. If you have, then shame on you.

Foreign students protest slave labor at Hershey's
Foreign students protest slave labor at Hershey's — RT
And even worse..................................I ask you to picture your loved ones in a similar situation.

Foreign students made sex slaves
March 3, 2009
Foreign students made sex slaves - Opinion - Daily 49er - California State University Long Beach
If you Google that last topic, articles going back ten years can be found, not a new or sudden problem.

The sex slave thing has nothing to do with the Hershey protest. Try to stay on topic here. Unless those kids were brought here against their will and/or contracts are not being upheld, it sounds to me like they're as bad at math as our own students are. If you know what you'll be paid and what your rent will run, what are the other variables? Beer money? Shakedowns from the employment agency? I've had some pretty miserable, manual labor jobs, most far worse than I was led to believe when I took the job. Never had one that refused to pay me though. How did I survive?

they're making minimum wage. and you're spending money that's what students do. u don't become an exchange student to make profit. u don't go to college and end up with more money graduating than u paid in tuition.

are the program fees exorbitant? probably....and who's fault is it that they're being taken advantage of? hard lesson in life. nobody kidnapped you and forced u to work at hersey's.




this is totally different than sex/indentured servitude scams that asian illegal immigrants are on.

It is the same topic because it is the same program.

J-1 Student Visa Abuse: Foreign Students Forced To Work In Strip Clubs, Eat On Floor
J-1 Student Visa Abuse: Foreign Students Forced To Work In Strip Clubs, Eat On Floor

Student visa abuse a growing danger in America
HOLBROOK MOHR, MITCH WEISS and MIKE BAKER
December 6, 2010
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/36390

Out of arguments there, Kach?

I proved you wrong and that's all I get?

What a jip.

Found it, a bit dated so could be less now as the dollar value..

I still say put the punks on a boat & send em home..

I'm old, married, with kids....but....if I was freshly out of school with no commitments, I would be checking out the J-I women. I saw some pretty stunning women out in Tahoe and Yosemite. Seems like an easy catch, your American, there not? They are getting sent back no matter what. Am I missing something?

You proved nothing except that you can't carry an argument and so have to change the subject. There is no evidence (let alone allegation) of sexual slavery with regard to the foreign students in Hershey, yet you see some linkage here. Basically, they're kids who are probably getting screwed by the employment agency and/or didn't understand that making $8/hr in the US is only decent money for kids because they usually live with their parents for free and don't pay an employment agency. Sorry for them, but I doubt this was sprung on them as soon as they landed here. They sound like they're going to end up in menial jobs here or at home because they don't think things through or know math very well. Maybe that will drive some into the sex trade. But no one kidnapped them and brought them here and turning tricks was not a condition of their employment with Hershey.

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And, just to clarify, she is a cashier at one of the many tchotchke stores there.

I just don't understand your low comprehension level, you are an adult, right?

Nowhere did I even come close to saying what you claim, why do you have this need to lie and make stuff up?

I asked everyone to read the two articles I posted, if you read them you would have known they talked about the same student exchange program listed in the title of this thread.

This is not PARF Rick Lee, your usual tactics hold no water here. Clean up your act, time to be an adult.

Kach, I read them both and came to the same conclusion as Rick. I stated it in the PARf thread with the same links.

Somebody step up and be the tiebreaker or tiemaker.

"Hello, Pot? Um...this is The Kettle. Just calling to inform you of a little detail you might've missed..."

Now we're getting somewhere. Is this just another false flag operation like Project Gunrunner/Operation Fast & Furious? You know, the whole immigration/visa system is broken, so let's abolish it and open the floodgates...

Trust me, the students aren't making any money this year and along the way the FEES they pay to get here have been inflated, and, the PROMISES that brought them here have been over stated.

This year I have 9 J1 students working for me. Several wait tables outside in the sweltering humidity and one lovely young lady stands on the boardwalk at a hot dog cart selling hot dogs all day long. None of these kids complain and they have never missed a shift. They prefer to work 7 days a week and they do so with great pride. They are the most efficient employees I have. They were taught respect and good work ethics by someone, somewhere.

On the other hand I have had no fewer than 6 local kids take jobs and quit because it’s too hot to work outside or they are too tired to get up in the morning. I called one of them when he was late for work, and he sent me a text saying he was on his way to florida.

Thank you for adding to the discussion.

The "up to $6,000" must be an high, I found more information, CETUSA only gets $600 of that from I can tell.

Far from home and on their own - Mywesttexas.com: Top Stories
And as far as CETUSA being sued in a class action lawsuit by the students, they just might deserve it. They have sued others for trying to help the students, not very nice of them.

Attempt to 'Sue' Child Advocate's Mouth Shut
Court Date Scheduled for Local Child Protection Advocate
Please Help Eradicate Bad Agencies Abusing Student Exchange Programs

Quite a few other articles on the topic here:
News 2009

So if they unionize these foreign kids, consumer prices go up, owner profits go down and the money leaves the country along with the kids at the end of summer. Can we just get some illegals to work these jobs.

Seriously, I expect somebody in the US legally would take the employment.