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Rick Lee 09-04-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6235115)
If you'd seen the sh$t being drained from my fathers lungs in the last few days of his life you would never smoke again. It was the most vile colored sh$t I have seen exiting a human body.

Let's be brutally honest here. You could say the same for what comes out of your body after getting food poisoning or even having a good Mexican meal. You could be the healthiest, most in shape man in the world and I wouldn't be able to stand looking at anything other than your fully clothed body.

Geronimo '74 09-05-2011 01:07 AM

How this for motivation? (hope you get to see it before the mods delete it, I post this because it is for a good cause, I know it is not a pretty sight...)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315209658.jpg

Smoker
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315209677.jpg

non-smoker
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1315209715.jpg


Quit smoking, one of the best decisions I ever made. (Easily in my top five of best decisions)
Every time I see someone lighting one up, I genuinely feel a bit sorry.

Geronimo '74 09-05-2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6235115)
If you'd seen the sh$t being drained from my fathers lungs in the last few days of his life you would never smoke again. It was the most vile colored sh$t I have seen exiting a human body.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 6236647)
Let's be brutally honest here. You could say the same for what comes out of your body after getting food poisoning or even having a good Mexican meal. You could be the healthiest, most in shape man in the world and I wouldn't be able to stand looking at anything other than your fully clothed body.

Don't know why you are trying to counter an argument like this.
I'm not sure even if you get what Dewolf is trying to say here.
His argument goes way beyond just the color of the fluids.
Dying of cancer after a life of smoking is a pretty gruesome way to die.
(Dying from too much Mexican food probably is also...)

dewolf 09-05-2011 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 6236647)
Let's be brutally honest here. You could say the same for what comes out of your body after getting food poisoning or even having a good Mexican meal. You could be the healthiest, most in shape man in the world and I wouldn't be able to stand looking at anything other than your fully clothed body.

I hope you are friggin joking....I transported my father to hospital after he started a coughing fit and was gasping for breath. I saw the fear in his eyes. He was coughing up dark green and black stringy sh$t. They put him in a coma the same day and ventilated him. Two hours later two drains were inserted into the lungs. One for each. The bottle was full of black and dark green slime. Three days later I was asked to turn off his ventilator. To even compare this to having diarrhea is absurd.

Just writing this brings back horrible memories. Fred, just stop. You will die a horrible and frightening death.

svandamme 09-05-2011 06:55 AM

Drink lot's of Orange Juice, it breaks down nicotine, trust me.

And go to whyquit.org , read up

Read the trainwrecks

Learn about the mechanics
like how Nicotine controls your bloodsugar levels and without folks tend to binge eat.
It takes 20 minute for your bloodsugar to go up after eating,
if you are aware of that, eat something then wait rather then keep eating till you hit the sweet spot.

This is what keeps you from gaining weight when you quit (this and exercise)

Anyway, whyquit.org is very good.
Keep going at it.

Exercise if you get craves or real bad grumpyness.. work it off on a bike or sommin.

do NOT use nicotine replacements , they will only make it more difficult.
Cold Turkey and you will be off the ciggies for good.

Am at 1.3 years now.. never again.

You don't just stop something, you make a lifestyle change

- smoking
+ health
+ better diet
+ more exercise
ultimately that means + happy

DonDavis 09-05-2011 02:29 PM

^ Well said. I hope more folks that have quit chime in with their success tips!

Buckterrier 09-05-2011 06:55 PM

You can do it Fred!! I quit cold turkey in 91', (4th attempt). Smoked two packs of Newports a day. Oh and this is an incentive... correct me if I'm wrong docs but I think the lungs are self-healing. They will eventually clean themselves up, to an extent. I ran a half marathon 10 years after quitting.

GO FRED!!!!!!!

GWN7 09-06-2011 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6236442)
Day two down, I am an emotional feekin' basket case. I have an old coffee can full of butts back by my shed, and I was eyballin' it for a little while today, and then I was just out in the truck holding the keys trembling , ready to run down to buy a pack of smokes, but came back in the house. I am gonna make it. I have just got to the point, where I do not want to be unhealthy anymore, my life is too busy to carry around an O2 tank .
So you tell me it will get easier after the 3rd day huh?..........
Thanks for the support ! Tomorrow is another day.

After 72 hrs the nicotine has left your system, then the desire is all in your mind. It's easy to say yes and get in the truck and drive to the store (I did that a few times myself) but when you get there you just have to say NO to getting out and buying them. It gets easier every day. Seven months now for me. I went the Champix route (Dr's recomendation) and I was encouraged by Crusty Chiefs sucess with it. Drink lots of water. Every time you want one have a glass of water. Hyper hydrate.

svandamme 09-06-2011 08:46 AM

Get some kind of quit counter, it's corny, but it has milestones in it, things to look forward to achieving..

when you hit a mile stone, reward yourself
Buy a 1:18 Porsche model
Or some scale airplane models.

Little things you wouldn't normally buy because maybe they are for kids, or maybe you have other things that you need more.

but now, you can use the ciggie cash for those kinds of things... reallocate it.

Stijn - Free and Healing for One Year, Three Months, Twenty Seven Days and 8 Minutes, while extending my life expectancy 40 Days and 8 Hours, by avoiding the use of 11616 nicotine delivery devices that would have cost me $2,451.78.

GH85Carrera 09-06-2011 08:50 AM

I talked to a friend this weekend that has quit about a year ago. He said the one thing that was hardest for him was he was convinced his car would not start without a light cigarette in his hand.

Dottore 09-06-2011 08:52 AM

One other important bit of advice: You must, for the time being, refuse to see friends who smoke. This is the single biggest risk to starting up again. It's not easy—but just make excuses.

Eric Hahl 09-06-2011 09:14 AM

I smoked 1 pack a day for 21 years. I finally got sick and tired of the hacking, brown flem and light wallet. I quit September 20th 2003 and haven't looked back. Have not had one cigarette since.

It was tough for a while and even now when I am around smokers sometimes, I look and think "that smokes looks great" but I will never smoke again. I am stronger than my addiction and it will never rule my world again.

Take it one craving at a time. When you get the urge just say, nope, not gonna do it this time. Next thing you know you'll be free of the habit and won't really think about it at all.

svandamme 09-06-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 6238866)
One other important bit of advice: You must, for the time being, refuse to see friends who smoke. This is the single biggest risk to starting up again. It's not easy—but just make excuses.

this and alcohol

Rick Lee 09-06-2011 10:33 AM

On the contrary, I would try to hang around people who smoke. You need to get used to it. It's not that hard to quit smoking when you're far removed from cigarettes and it would take a lot of effort to get one. If I wanted one now, I'd have to suit up in my riding gear (993 is down now) and ride to gas station in the 100 deg. heat. You know you will be around them again. And being around smoke and ashtrays could be an extra reminder of how bad it smells.

When my boss (a smoker) flies out here to go on meetings with me, I sort of like the second hand smoke, but then I really hate the way he smells afterwards and it makes me uneasy to walk into client meetings with him smelling like an ashtray. But I've never been tempted to bum a smoke off of him, especially while we're working.

svandamme 09-06-2011 10:43 AM

Sorry Rick, that's just no good , every whif of passive smoke will trigger your addiction.

Considering that Nicotine is one of the hardest addictions to shake, why would anybody do that to himself , it's just masochisme.. Same as using nicotine replacemens, it jus stretches the quit, increasing the risk of failing.


There is no reason why anybody who is serious about quitting, should not avoid being around smoke during those early days , weeks , even months.

Would you encourage a smackhead who's in his initial withdrawel , to go visit his smack friends?
Would you recommend an alcoholic to sit in bars when he's going through detox?

Gonna say it nicely, that's just silly.

Dottore 09-06-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 6239099)

Sorry Rick, that's just no good , every whif of passive smoke will trigger your addiction.

I agree 100%. This is a life and death issue. Not a fashion issue. You have to get that monkey off your back first.

Rick Lee 09-06-2011 10:53 AM

I'm only saying it because it has worked for me. The most dangerous time after quitting is when you think you have the habit kicked, so it will be ok to have just one once in a while. I've quit for years at a time and had no problem at all until months or years later, when I was sure a drag here or there wouldn't do any harm. And since Fred will most certainly be around smoking for the rest of his life, he might as well get used to it while it's still difficult. It's a good exercise.

I was in Germany exactly a year ago for the first time since quitting and it was a real challenge. I work from home and am just about never around smoking anymore. So it's no challenge at all because I'm too lazy (or not jonesing enough) to bother doing what it takes to get cigarettes and then the urge passes. In Germany I was around smoking all the time and they don't even allow it indoors there anymore. Now I'm going to China again in two mos. and every single man there smokes, you can smoke in hotel elevators and they have ashtrays at bank teller windows. That's gonna be tough. I'm gonna smell like an ashtray whether I smoke or not. And the smell will be in my luggage as soon as I get back to my house too.

strupgolf 09-06-2011 03:01 PM

Hey, why stop at 12 hours, go for 12 months.

Langers 09-11-2011 04:58 AM

I still don't understand why anyone would take up smoking nowadays anyway?

fastfredracing 09-11-2011 07:13 AM

I have smoked for 20 years. I am proud to say that I am on day #8, and still going strong. Neighbors were smoking yesterday, while we were working on the rental house, and it actually smelled foul to me. Getting easier, everyday, but I still have my moments where I could kill for one , just one......

Dan J 09-11-2011 07:59 AM

Good for you Fred! I was hoping you'd post good news like this. Keep it going It's a foul,disgusting habit and I don't think you're a foul and disgusting kinda guy

svandamme 09-11-2011 08:08 AM

You hav passed the worst now

http://www.whyquit.com/whyquit/z_CraveGrafBW.gif

Things will only get better, just keep in mind that when a crave pops up, time warps.
It seems to last longer then it actually does.

Also, be aware of things when it goes to easy. I mean, Don't get complacent.
When i did my first quit (2006), at day 19, completely out of the blue this massive crave came up.
Wasn't prepared for it. And i caved.
Drove to the Fuel tation 2 miles from my appartment, bought a pack.
Started smoking on the drive back..

By the time i arrived at the appartment, i was more drunk then a boozer who just downd a pint of Whiskey.. Almost fell over while walking up the stairs.

Got inside, and there was the guilt. I then smoked 4 smokes back to back till i nearly puked and managed to stay off the ciggies for 9 months.


Relapsed on a ski trip, drinking, smoked 1 or 2 with a "it's just a couple" mentality... But ended up relapsing completely. till last year, quit again, not one , not ever again.

But let's not get ahead of things.. You'de doing great, You have passed the worst.
Try and focus on replacing the bad things with good.
Exercise to deal with the mood swings... a sports high is great to kill the cravings.

DonDavis 09-11-2011 09:01 AM

Congrats, Fred! Glad to hear you're making progress. We're pulling for you!

paulgtr 09-11-2011 10:25 AM

great job Fred! I quit cold turkey on March 1, 2005. the worst times were the jonesing for a smoke. one time I was waiting for some one and checking my watch because they were getting late. had a strong jones for a smoke and then noticed it went away. took 8 minutes... about as long as it takes to smoke one. you can make it! you'll feel better for it and soon you will see and smell how nasty smokers actually are.

azasadny 09-11-2011 04:20 PM

Fred,
How are you doing??

A930Rocket 09-11-2011 05:18 PM

Never smoked, but good for you and everyone else that has quit smoking.

Keep it up!

Por_sha911 09-12-2011 04:07 PM

Been there. Keep going. One day at a time.
Remember that there is power in absolutes. Zero cigarettes each day is a million times more encouraging than "only had one..."

Oh Haha 09-12-2011 05:58 PM

Just saw this thread.

Keep up the momentum, Fred.

My wife and I quit about 9 years ago when we decided it was time to add kids to our family.

I can honestly say that I have not hadany tobacco since the day I put them down. Strangely enough, I have had no cravings either.

Nowadays, I can't stand to be around anyone that smokes.

And the price of a pack?!!!!

I couldn't afford to smoke now anyway. :eek:

Danimal16 09-12-2011 06:08 PM

Fred,

You are inspiring me to get off the darn things!!! KEEP IT UP MAN! I am totally into the thought of it and now just need to follow your lead. You come to hate the damn things! I am there but just need to push over the top to start the process.

Dan B

nikita76 09-13-2011 07:42 AM

Hey Fred,

Keep up the good work! You can do it and you'll love yourself for it!

I quit 8 years ago with 2 accupuncture sessions.

ND

jshape 09-13-2011 08:17 AM

I quit on December 6, 1982, well before Chanitx and other drug-based anti-smokig aids. There was nicotine gum but it didn't work - at least not for me.

I'd tried to quit many before that but that time it stuck BECAUSE I MADE THE CHOICE THAT I WANTED TO QUIT - forever. Three things got me through it:

1. Knowing that the urge to have a cigarette WOULD go away - whether I had one or not.
2. Knowing that having 'just one' WILL hurt and that I couldn't do that.
3. Knowing that my desire to quit was stronger than my desire to cheat on myself.

I also put a very large rubber band around my wrist and every time I really wanted to light up I stretched it out and let it fly. Yes, it stung - and it was supposed to. The sting would help me focus on something other than smoking.

fastfredracing 09-13-2011 08:30 AM

GO FOR IT DANIMAL! It is silly hard the first day, but you start feeling better the next day, although the cravings are still rough today , 10 days later. I have probably eaten 4000 life savers over the last two weeks, but is better than cigs.
You guys here in the ot helped me more than you will know. There were a few times, I almost caved, but I did not want to report back to you guys that I am a spineless pussy with no will power.
I do feel a whole lot better, and I am more productive as well. I was a two pack a day smoker, so I just got back 40 smoke breaks a day worth of my time.
I have quit many times before, and I think I know where I tripped up before. I don't drink or party anymore, and that was always my downfall in the past.
Than you pelicans, I am SMOKE FREE!!.

paulgtr 09-13-2011 08:35 AM

excellent Fred! get a bicycle now!
work on your lung capacity, take some nice easy rides and get the healing process jump started
the sooner you start having fresh lungs the sooner you will have no cravings

fastfredracing 09-13-2011 09:00 AM

I am on vacation all next week, swimming, surfing, fishing, etc... But when I get back, I am jumping back on my mountain bike. I miss the hell out of riding.

DonDavis 09-13-2011 09:05 AM

You're doing very well! Have a great vacation and keep moving forward, I'm proud of you.

Rikao4 09-13-2011 09:09 AM

congrats..
now throw the $$ in a can..
seriously..
figure at least 12 bucks a day...
you will be amazed what you burned up..
besides your health..

Rika

vash 09-13-2011 10:16 AM

alright!!! well done

use US!! dont let US down..!! (if this helps) hahah.

so how soon did food start tasting better? all my friends that quit comment on food flavors and how they taste heightened.

svandamme 09-13-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6251628)
I am more productive as well. I was a two pack a day smoker, so I just got back 40 smoke breaks a day worth of my time.

Be carefull with that, if you just work and never take breaks, you'll end up overworked and stressed. That's no good either.And probably just as risky in terms of nicotine relapse....

Do make sure to take the occasional time for yourself, even at work.
Take a walk around the building, if there's a company gym, go do some exercises.
Take more time to talk to people

Your ability to focus may change with time, so take time to adapt to a new way of thinking and concentrating..

Be creative.. Don't simply convert the smoke time into work time.

Brando 09-13-2011 10:37 AM

Here's some encouragement:
Quote:

Within ...

20 minutes
Your blood pressure, pulse rate, and the temperature of your hands and feet will all return to normal.

8 hours
Remaining nicotine in your bloodstream will have fallen to 6.25% of normal peak daily levels, a 93.25% reduction.

12 hours
Your blood oxygen level will have increased to normal and carbon monoxide levels will have dropped to normal.

24 hours
Anxieties peak in intensity and within two weeks should return to near pre-cessation levels.

48 hours
Damaged nerve endings have started to regrow and your sense of smell and taste are beginning to return to normal. Cessation anger and irritability peaks.

72 hours
Your entire body will test 100% nicotine-free and over 90% of all nicotine metabolites (the chemicals it breaks down into) will now have passed from your body via your urine. Symptoms of chemical withdrawal have peaked in intensity, including restlessness. The number of cue induced crave episodes experienced during any quitting day will peak for the "average" ex-user. Lung bronchial tubes leading to air sacs (alveoli) are beginning to relax in recovering smokers. Breathing is becoming easier and the lungs functional abilities are starting to increase.

5 - 8 days
The "average" ex-smoker will encounter an "average" of three cue induced crave episodes per day. Although we may not be "average" and although serious cessation time distortion can make minutes feel like hours, it is unlikely that any single episode will last longer than 3 minutes. Keep a clock handy and time them.

10 days
10 days - The "average ex-user is down to encountering less than two crave episodes per day, each less than 3 minutes.

10 days to 2 weeks
Recovery has likely progressed to the point where your addiction is no longer doing the talking. Blood circulation in our gums and teeth are now similar to that of a non-user.

2 to 4 weeks
Cessation related anger, anxiety, difficulty concentrating, impatience, insomnia, restlessness and depression have ended. If still experiencing any of these symptoms get seen and evaluated by your physician.

21 days
Brain acetylcholine receptor counts up-regulated in response to nicotine's presence have now down-regulated and receptor binding has returned to levels seen in the brains of non-smokers.

2 weeks to 3 months
Your heart attack risk has started to drop. Your lung function is beginning to improve.

3 weeks to 3 months
Your circulation has substantially improved. Walking has become easier. Your chronic cough, if any, has likely disappeared.
Keep it up!!!

Targa Me 09-13-2011 12:12 PM

keep it up !
YOU are in control. When you feel like you want one, say to yourself...NO NOT TODAY.


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