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Baz 09-28-2011 12:14 PM

Why do we have a second language again?
 
Posting here because this has nothing to do with Politics and Religion.

Why do we have to have a second language (or more) on almost everything we buy?

I realize there are visitors in our country who do not understand English but English is our language and having other languages to sort through is a pain.

I guess it boils down to manufacturers marketing their goods to more than one market.

http://marcjager.com/images/facepalm.jpg

GH85Carrera 09-28-2011 12:31 PM

If a manufacturer can sell his product in the USA & Mexico with ZERO changes it saves them money. Many electronic gizmos come with instructions in several dozen languages.

Christien 09-28-2011 12:44 PM

Here in Canada it's the law. We have two official languages, therefore all packaging must be in both.

stomachmonkey 09-28-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6280504)
Here in Canada it's the law. We have two official languages, therefore all packaging must be in both.

Beat me to it and I hate that about Canada.

The additional manufacturing and other resources we expend on it makes it almost not worth selling our products up there.

S. America has some of the same issues.

Forget Brazil. We sell to a distributor and let them grey market it in. Money loser for us to do directly.

Jim Richards 09-28-2011 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6280504)
Here in Canada it's the law. We have two official languages, therefore all packaging must be in both.

French and Canadian, eh? ;)

Christien 09-28-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6280526)
Beat me to it and I hate that about Canada.

The additional manufacturing and other resources we expend on it makes it almost not worth selling our products up there.

I think we miss out on a lot of products for that reason. It's not as bad now as it was several years ago, though. I remember when I was a kid I was fascinated with American chocolate bars. Of course, you guys never did get Smarties!

livi 09-28-2011 01:20 PM

Its to remind you there is a whole world outside of USA. :)

HardDrive 09-28-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by livi (Post 6280561)
Its to remind you there is a whole world outside of USA. :)

+10 freaking million.

scottmandue 09-28-2011 02:08 PM

What do you call someone who speaks two languages? Bilingual

What do you call someone who speaks one language? American

racer 09-28-2011 03:14 PM

I can tolerate multiple language labels, but what irks me currently is "press 1 for english" on a phone.

masraum 09-28-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 6280537)
French and Canadian, eh? ;)

Hahaha. Now that's funny.

Joe Bob 09-28-2011 03:44 PM

When you need to press "1" for Spanish and "2" for English, one tends to throw the phone through the wall.

Lompoc School District......

Tobra 09-28-2011 09:38 PM

They have three languages in Arizona. English, Spanish and whatever the hell it is that OJU speaks

look 171 09-28-2011 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6280549)
I think we miss out on a lot of products for that reason. It's not as bad now as it was several years ago, though. I remember when I was a kid I was fascinated with American chocolate bars. Of course, you guys never did get Smarties!


Isn't Smarties English and not Canadian?

porsche4life 09-28-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 6281448)
t...OJU speaks...

I think he really works for the gov't as a code talker....

IROC 09-29-2011 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livi (Post 6280561)
Its to remind you there is a whole world outside of USA. :)

Nailed it. I work with a scientist from Africa who speaks 7 languages. He told me a joke one time:

Q: What do you call a person with an college degree who only speaks one language?

A: An American.

Mark Henry 09-29-2011 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 6281458)
Isn't Smarties English and not Canadian?

Both.

Shifter 09-29-2011 07:59 AM

Why do I have to select the language at an atm? I honestly doubt I am going to suddenly feel the need to use the atm with my card in german or arabic.
Can't I have my language preference coded to the card? Or is this a fraud/theft protection thing?

pwd72s 09-29-2011 09:00 AM

This answers the question
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8i5PEhtWzY&NR=1

Zeke 09-29-2011 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 6281579)
Nailed it. I work with a scientist from Africa who speaks 7 languages. He told me a joke one time:

Q: What do you call a person with an college degree who only speaks one language?

A: An American.

And what do you call a lot of the world that speaks English as a 2nd language? Knowing the advantage.

porsche4life 09-29-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6282132)
And what do you call a lot of the world that speaks English as a 2nd language? Knowing the advantage.

You better learn Chinese if you want to hold that advantage.....

vash 09-29-2011 10:41 AM

¿Qué dijiste?

¿Mande?

bums me out. i used to be fluent in spanish and cantonese. now i just know broken sentences. my english is suspect too.

wish i kept it up.

Bill Douglas 09-29-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Christien (Post 6280504)
We have two official languages,

In NZ we hace two official languages and I speak three of them.

cmccuist 09-29-2011 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IROC (Post 6281579)
Nailed it. I work with a scientist from Africa who speaks 7 languages. He told me a joke one time:

Q: What do you call a person with an college degree who only speaks one language?

A: An American.

African Scientist is hillarious! I bet he kills them in Cameroon! I can see it now - African Scientist Comedy Jam, African Scientist at the Improv, Two and a Half African Scientists. :rolleyes:

But seriously, I just got back from the Middle East Oil and Gas Conference and Exhibition in Bahrain(and are my arms tired!). It's a week of vendors, scientists, geologists and engineers right in the heart of the Middle East. Very technical presenters from all over the world, experts in drilling, well testing, reservoir management, unconventional gas, fracking etc. The one thing they had in common - every paper, exhibit, presentation, and document were all in English.

I've lived all over the world. In such exotic places as Algeria, Saudi Arabia, St. Croix, American Samoa and New Jersey. Everywhere I go, they speak English or wish they did. Even the guy who sells me donuts on my way to work in Dhahran speaks English. There are 540,000 words in the English language with more being added every day. In the Kingdom, every billboard, menu, street sign, and newspaper has Arabic and English versions. I'm trying to learn Arabic, but all my colleagues speak English! It's the official language of Aramco. All the specs and procedures are in English.

Yea, we're very isolated and colloquial here in the US. But they are still paying Amurikins ungodly amounts of jack to come and work in other countries. They can't get enough of us! It's not just a language thing either. It's cultural.

There are about 7,000 distinct languages being spoken in the world right now. Half of those, and the people who speak them, will not survive this century. You can go ahead and fire up your Rosetta stone and make the effort, but if you speak English, you're way ahead of the game communication wise.

The project I'm running right now - $145 million pipeline - has vendors in Belgium, Italy, the US, Spain, and KSA. Every bit of communication is in English. All my contacts speak English. You can still do business even if you don't know Spanish, French, Italian etc.

Now, my colleagues in SA all appreciate the effort I'm putting in because they are naturally proud of their Arabic - a really beautiful and ancient language with huge cultural and artistic significance (Arabic writing is a form of art as well as communication). But it doesn't keep me from my work. I would encourage Americans to at least put forth the effort. It's pretty fun learning a new language.

stomachmonkey 09-29-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmccuist (Post 6282467)
African Scientist is hillarious! I bet he kills them in Cameroon! I can see it now - African Scientist Comedy Jam, African Scientist at the Improv, Two and a Half African Scientists. :rolleyes:

But seriously, I just got back from the Middle East Oil and Gas Conference and Exhibition in Bahrain(and are my arms tired!). It's a week of vendors, scientists, geologists and engineers right in the heart of the Middle East. Very technical presenters from all over the world, experts in drilling, well testing, reservoir management, unconventional gas, fracking etc. The one thing they had in common - every paper, exhibit, presentation, and document were all in English.

I've lived all over the world. In such exotic places as Algeria, Saudi Arabia, St. Croix, American Samoa and New Jersey. Everywhere I go, they speak English or wish they did. Even the guy who sells me donuts on my way to work in Dhahran speaks English. There are 540,000 words in the English language with more being added every day. In the Kingdom, every billboard, menu, street sign, and newspaper has Arabic and English versions. I'm trying to learn Arabic, but all my colleagues speak English! It's the official language of Aramco. All the specs and procedures are in English.

Yea, we're very isolated and colloquial here in the US. But they are still paying Amurikins ungodly amounts of jack to come and work in other countries. They can't get enough of us! It's not just a language thing either. It's cultural.

There are about 7,000 distinct languages being spoken in the world right now. Half of those, and the people who speak them, will not survive this century. You can go ahead and fire up your Rosetta stone and make the effort, but if you speak English, you're way ahead of the game communication wise.

The project I'm running right now - $145 million pipeline - has vendors in Belgium, Italy, the US, Spain, and KSA. Every bit of communication is in English. All my contacts speak English. You can still do business even if you don't know Spanish, French, Italian etc.

Now, my colleagues in SA all appreciate the effort I'm putting in because they are naturally proud of their Arabic - a really beautiful and ancient language with huge cultural and artistic significance (Arabic writing is a form of art as well as communication). But it doesn't keep me from my work. I would encourage Americans to at least put forth the effort. It's pretty fun learning a new language.

What's really sad is all my foreign business contacts who speak and write English better than their US counter parts.

cmccuist 09-29-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6282476)
What's really sad is all my foreign business contacts who speak and write English better than their US counter parts.

Agreed. I work with Phillipinos, Saudis, Canadians, Brits, Germans, etc. Their English is amazing. They even get the slang. It's sad that we (Americans) don't pay more attention to our communication skills.

KFC911 09-29-2011 11:57 AM

No sé por qué necesitamos incluso inglés, también me habla habla del Sur.

Hard-Deck 09-29-2011 12:00 PM

The United States does not have a legal official language.

Zeke 09-29-2011 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6282145)
You better learn Chinese if you want to hold that advantage.....

I don't have anything that I want them to have and there's nothing they have that I want that I can't have with English.

Pretty much says it all about anyone I deal with. It's kinda like me having to speak Spanish to get my lawn mowed. That won't happen.

MattKellett 09-29-2011 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cmccuist (Post 6282500)
Agreed. I work with Phillipinos, Saudis, Canadians, Brits, Germans, etc. Their English is amazing. They even get the slang. It's sad that we (Americans) don't pay more attention to our communication skills.

I know what you meant, but that's some funny $#!T right there :D

dagriff 09-29-2011 04:50 PM

I always look forward to reading the instructions translated from Chinese. Just hilarious.
After reading this post, us prefer you go have happy fun time.

cmccuist 09-29-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKellett (Post 6282824)
I know what you meant, but that's some funny $#!T right there :D

Yea, I should have said Scots! I can't understand a word they're saying.

Hugo930 09-29-2011 05:49 PM

Yo no creo que tu sabes espanol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 6282511)
No sé por qué necesitamos incluso inglés, también me habla habla del Sur.



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