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fred cook 10-13-2011 04:39 PM

Pretty good stopper........
 
My FNP in 357 Sig with a laser sight is/would be a pretty good "stopper"! If that's not good enough, move on to the 12 gauge with OO buck!!

944Larry 10-13-2011 04:45 PM

I'm not interested in the 'stopper" because sometimes the person you want to "stop" needs to be destroyed and not merely "stopped".

motion 10-13-2011 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 944Larry (Post 6309759)
I'm not interested in the 'stopper" because sometimes the person you want to "stop" needs to be destroyed and not merely "stopped".

Yes, this Stopper would not be good for the gene pool at all.

dtw 10-13-2011 05:37 PM

The bad guys ditch the handguns and start using sniper rifles to stay out of range of the Stoppers.

Bad guys are...bad. Why do people not get that.

Bill Douglas 10-13-2011 06:44 PM

I dunno, there's just something, almost romantic, about pointing a firearm at someone and watching them almost ____ their pants.

HardDrive 10-13-2011 06:51 PM

Side question: Can I put the stopper on a low power setting and put it in my pants for a thrill?

PabloX 10-13-2011 06:58 PM

"Stoppers" of a sort already exist. Tasers and pepper spray approach what you're talking about. The rub is in some states those too are either illegal or require a state issued license.

Leland Pate 10-13-2011 08:41 PM

EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW
ABOUT GUN CONTROL IN 99 WORDS!
© 2007 January 07 by G. Edward Griffin

There have been millions of pages and billions of words written on gun control, and thousands more are added almost every day. How preposterous to claim that all there is to know about this topic can be said in just ninety-nine words. Yet, after reading a substantial sampling of the books and essays (pro and con) that comprise the body of this literature, I have concluded that it all boils down to just two concepts. One has to do with protection against crime; the other with protection against tyranny. All the rest is historical and emotional support for these two main theses. Here, then, reduced to its essence, is my ninety-nine-word summary:

Gun-control laws do not control crime because crimes are not committed by guns; they are committed by criminals. Criminals will always have guns because they do not obey laws, including anti-gun laws. Those without guns are easy prey for criminals with guns. Gun control encourages crime.

The right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights, not to deter crime, but to deter oppressive government. Just governments honor and protect the right to bear arms. Oppressive governments fear and prohibit the right to bear arms.

Guns are dangerous. The only thing more dangerous is not having them.

DanielDudley 10-14-2011 04:30 PM

'' I don't need a gun to kick your sorry @ss.'' Wyatt Earp

Joe Bob 10-14-2011 04:48 PM

Stoppers would be better than a trunk monkey. When the stoopid driver wakes up..."Hey, I was stopped".....maybe I WAS stoopid.

Then again, I would be tempted to use it multiple times on some....

pwd72s 10-14-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leland Pate (Post 6310134)
EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW
ABOUT GUN CONTROL IN 99 WORDS!
© 2007 January 07 by G. Edward Griffin

There have been millions of pages and billions of words written on gun control, and thousands more are added almost every day. How preposterous to claim that all there is to know about this topic can be said in just ninety-nine words. Yet, after reading a substantial sampling of the books and essays (pro and con) that comprise the body of this literature, I have concluded that it all boils down to just two concepts. One has to do with protection against crime; the other with protection against tyranny. All the rest is historical and emotional support for these two main theses. Here, then, reduced to its essence, is my ninety-nine-word summary:

Gun-control laws do not control crime because crimes are not committed by guns; they are committed by criminals. Criminals will always have guns because they do not obey laws, including anti-gun laws. Those without guns are easy prey for criminals with guns. Gun control encourages crime.

The right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights, not to deter crime, but to deter oppressive government. Just governments honor and protect the right to bear arms. Oppressive governments fear and prohibit the right to bear arms.

Guns are dangerous. The only thing more dangerous is not having them.

Sums it up pretty damned well.

944Larry 10-14-2011 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leland Pate (Post 6310134)
EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW
ABOUT GUN CONTROL IN 99 WORDS!
© 2007 January 07 by G. Edward Griffin

There have been millions of pages and billions of words written on gun control, and thousands more are added almost every day. How preposterous to claim that all there is to know about this topic can be said in just ninety-nine words. Yet, after reading a substantial sampling of the books and essays (pro and con) that comprise the body of this literature, I have concluded that it all boils down to just two concepts. One has to do with protection against crime; the other with protection against tyranny. All the rest is historical and emotional support for these two main theses. Here, then, reduced to its essence, is my ninety-nine-word summary:

Gun-control laws do not control crime because crimes are not committed by guns; they are committed by criminals. Criminals will always have guns because they do not obey laws, including anti-gun laws. Those without guns are easy prey for criminals with guns. Gun control encourages crime.

The right to bear arms was included in the Bill of Rights, not to deter crime, but to deter oppressive government. Just governments honor and protect the right to bear arms. Oppressive governments fear and prohibit the right to bear arms.

Guns are dangerous. The only thing more dangerous is not having them.

Right on!!!

Aurel 10-14-2011 06:31 PM

Guns do not give freedom or protect against oppression, money does. It makes me laugh to see how people can be enslaved by debt, and yet believe they are somewhat free because they own a firearm.

svandamme 10-15-2011 02:54 AM

There is also that thing with these bears that got armed... does the stopper stop bears too?

nota 10-15-2011 12:35 PM

it would be simple to build in a GPS locator and camera in the stopper
when it is triggered it alerts the local cops and shows pictures in real time

I do not think robbers or rapists want the cops to respond quickly
or with pic's of the crime on record

1990C4S 10-15-2011 02:50 PM

Nobody goes out into the desert with ammo, tin cans and a stopper. So, no.

1990C4S 10-15-2011 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurel (Post 6311653)
Guns do not give freedom or protect against oppression, money does. It makes me laugh to see how people can be enslaved by debt, and yet believe they are somewhat free because they own a firearm.

Twenty-seven easy payments from now they will own that gun.

azasadny 10-15-2011 03:31 PM

You can't put the genie back into the bottle. Guns can not go away once they were invented. Guns are the great equalizer and the emotional ties to guns is just too strong...

flipper35 10-18-2011 01:51 PM

Perhaps if the stopper worked like the zat'nik'tel from Stargate SG1 I would almost go for it but shooting steel and paper with one doesn't have the same appeal as a projectile weapon.

The zat stuns on the first hit, kills on the second and the body disapears on the third consecutive hit. Convenient, yes?

Bill Douglas 10-18-2011 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 6317999)
Convenient, yes?

Yes indeed.


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