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notfarnow 12-01-2011 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 6403823)
So....what do u guys think about partnering with a friend on this endeavor?

Makes sense to me... I just bought "half" of my friend's sailboat. We found we were always helping each other out getting our boats rigged in the spring, and wrapped up in the winter, and half the time we sailed together on one boat or the other. Just made sense for us to split a boat vs maintaining two.

Dueller 12-01-2011 04:42 PM

some pics
 
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Dueller 12-01-2011 04:59 PM

The friend and co-owner stopped by.

Even tho' it hadn't been run in over year, I checked all the accessories for grins. Bilge pump, interior/running lights all came on, stereo works....so.....I turned the engine on nd it fired right up.

hmmmmm.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322791091.jpg


She looks a little to happy to be possibly without boat. Maybe I'll foolishly attribute that to it being the final thing to clear up before divorce is final....yeah...that's why.

Joe Bob 12-01-2011 05:01 PM

Park it at the dock next to the floozie bar.....take it from there.

gt350mike 12-01-2011 07:10 PM

Love the name of the boat......definitely rendezvous with destiny!

KFC911 12-02-2011 01:35 AM

OK, now that we've failed to talk ya out of it, buy the dang thing :). Seriously, I'd partnership with a friend on something like that it a heartbeat in your circunstance. Nice and beamy and looks a LOT like the one I've spent many awesome days and nights on. You'll have a blast with it...

KFC911 12-02-2011 02:13 AM

Need more incentive?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1322824378.jpg

oldE 12-02-2011 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 6405728)

What are you, hard of heron?;)

Just buy the darned thing, party on it for a few years. Scare yourself a couple of times sailing on the res and be glad you finally got rid of it in 60 months.

Typical boat experience.

Best
Les

Dueller 12-02-2011 05:39 AM

Well, had a long visit with the female half owner. We went thru all of the systems and she was candid that the boat really needs to come out of the water for bottom maintenance. No known problems but she said she would feel better better doing that rather than risking selling me some unknown problems or a pig in a poke. But how do we deal with that expense and how does it affect price. Pulling it and minimum bottom maintenace will be at least $2K I bet.

Therein lies the dilemma. Do I buy it bottom sight unseen and play with it a season casually sailing as is or do we pull it and have a look see? I'm sending an experienced sailing bud to look over rigging and mechanicals etc to give me his opinion.

Joe Bob 12-02-2011 05:57 AM

http://image.shutterstock.com/displa...t-40422850.jpg

Dueller 12-02-2011 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6405937)

My wallet's not deep enough for that!:D

Joe Bob 12-02-2011 06:28 AM

Bet you can rent it.....

Dueller 12-02-2011 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6405997)
Bet you can rent it.....

Yeah but pulling out of the lease agreement early can be expensive...

recycled sixtie 12-02-2011 06:40 AM

Being a non sailor, I would suggest hiring a scuba diver with a marine flashlite who has boat inspection experience. Big bucks but less possibly than no inspection. As they say a boat is a place to pour money into. Is my idea practical - cheaper than hauling the b....y thing out of the water?
Cheers!

recycled sixtie 12-02-2011 06:42 AM

ditto above...
 
A lot cheaper to rent it overall. No fuss no muss. Walk away after u r done!SmileWavy

Dueller 12-02-2011 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 6406027)
A lot cheaper to rent it overall. No fuss no muss. Walk away after u r done!SmileWavy

Have a buddy who is a rescue diver coming in over the holidays and may get him to do it. Quite honestly a survey, especially out of water, survey is probably too expensive on this small a purchase.

VINMAN 12-02-2011 07:57 AM

Not to scare you out of it Jim, but do yourself a favor and get a marine survey on it. Sailboats can have a lot more hidden issues then powerboats.

VINMAN 12-02-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6403829)
Jim, I know you've got the 3k...

Partnering with a friend will just shorten the life of that friendship...

Agreed!!

Seahawk 12-02-2011 08:42 AM

Pull the boat, Jim.

Cracks in the Gel-coat, seals around the shaft, etc. can only be spotted out of the water.

Here in Maryland, it is $20 bucks or so a foot to yank a boat and put it on blocks, which I recommend highly.

Baseline the thing BEFORE you buy it.

From the pictures, there is a whole lot of work that needs to be done to get the wood right, above the waterline up to speed, etc. Hire a pro to tell yo what needs to be done.

What you'll save in engine, fuel tank (old gas and I bet the blond owner never heard of Stabil;)), old piping and tubing repair, etc. is worth the price of admission.

porsche4life 12-02-2011 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 6406018)
Being a non sailor, I would suggest hiring a scuba diver with a marine flashlite who has boat inspection experience. Big bucks but less possibly than no inspection. As they say a boat is a place to pour money into. Is my idea practical - cheaper than hauling the b....y thing out of the water?
Cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dueller (Post 6406040)
Have a buddy who is a rescue diver coming in over the holidays and may get him to do it. Quite honestly a survey, especially out of water, survey is probably too expensive on this small a purchase.

I've got most of my own dive equipment, and I know what failures look like... ;)

If ya need my services just let me know... I'll be out of school soon. :D


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