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John Rogers 12-09-2011 09:14 PM

Something for those who get traffic stops.....
 
Since I live in the land of maximum money generation and I am out at night mainly coming from the classes I teach I decided I needed a way to cover my butt in case of a bogus stop or other issue when driving. I set this app on my phone several months ago and I tested it twice so far and the feeds are set to go to one of the local TV stations that take pictures, video and other stuff and have one of those pain in the ass investigative reporters. I don't usually get stopped since I drive a black caddy most of the time and have gotten mostly grey hair so the police usually leave me alone. Anyways, this software really works and I think anyone that lives in an area where $$$$$ stops are routinely made should use it. Since the officer could get really nasty if he thought the phone was just recording but when he found out the stop gone bad was on the news, that would open a possible internal investigation. One just started today here in SD for a person accused of fixing/tearing up tickets for the DA's office....

How to Broadcast a Live Video Feed From Your Phone or Tablet | PCWorld

Tobra 12-09-2011 11:08 PM

Neato, but probably illegal in a alot of places.

wdfifteen 12-10-2011 03:58 AM

Wow, movies of me taking a crap broadcast live! Now I'll be able to tell all those doubters, "I told you so!" Shoulda made some bets...

porsche4life 12-10-2011 04:54 AM

Ustream is what Trekkor, and many of the lemons racers use to do a live in car feed. Works great if the track has consistent cell service.

LakeCleElum 12-10-2011 06:28 AM

3 times on Pelican, I've seen someone whine about a traffic stop, admit guilt and then go back later to edit their post on how innocent they were...I remember the names of all three to this day...Don't believe everything you read.

As far as presenting a legit insurance card and getting cited for no insurance, I'd bet large sums of money it was an EXPIRED card he/she was cited for.....

masraum 12-10-2011 06:43 AM

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As far as presenting a legit insurance card and getting cited for no insurance, I'd bet large sums of money it was an EXPIRED card he/she was cited for.....
I was thinking the exact same thing. It's easy to forget to trade out the old card for the new card come renewal time.

EarlyPorsche 12-10-2011 07:53 AM

Are you sure that you are allowed to conduct that surveillance? Could there be other legal issues that you need to know about?

intakexhaust 12-10-2011 08:02 AM

For discussion and in your application its illegal in Illinois.

WolfeMacleod 12-10-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeCleElum (Post 6423310)

As far as presenting a legit insurance card and getting cited for no insurance, I'd bet large sums of money it was an EXPIRED card he/she was cited for.....


I'll take that bet.

nota 12-11-2011 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 6423431)
For discussion and in your application its illegal in Illinois.

well that needs to be changed

it should be legal for any citizen to record any civil servant
any time any place but super esp when on the job and interacting
with the citizen in public


btw and semi-on topic

how many live in small towns
that have a NO tickets to residents policy ??
I am currently fighting city hall in our new small town
we have motorcycle cops who are ticket machines
and I want them GONE
and a NO tickets policy to locals
we are in a requesting neighbors to call the officials stage now
but if they doNOT reform policy to our requests
we will move to the recall drive stage

we simply want andy of mayberry style law enforcement
not the current barny's on motorcycles

my former medium sized town [ coral gables ]
did have that policy in place
most times the cop warn locals
and only ticket non-residents

porsche4life 12-11-2011 09:13 AM

I'm sorry, but if a local breaks the law, they should pay the fine as well....


No tickets to locals is BS

patssle 12-11-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 6423006)
Neato, but probably illegal in a alot of places.

The only places it is illegal is states that have 2 party consent laws. Which is thankfully, a select few.

Joeaksa 12-11-2011 09:20 AM

Problem is that in may areas its illegal to video LE without their permission. Getting that permission while the event is still happening aint gonna happen. Do not agree with this but its the law that they got voted into being.

patssle 12-11-2011 09:24 AM

Quote:

Problem is that in may areas its illegal to video LE without their permission.
Any source on that? From all the cases I've seen on police arresting those for recording, it's the audio recording laws they are getting them on.

Joeaksa 12-11-2011 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patssle (Post 6425320)
Any source on that? From all the cases I've seen on police arresting those for recording, it's the audio recording laws they are getting them on.

Sure do. Have you ever heard of Google?

States make it illegal to video tape police - KDVR

Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime? - TIME

Cops Fear Cameras: Is It Becoming Illegal to Video Tape Working Policemen? « The Cannabis Post

Goverment Moving To Make It Illegal To Video Police Without Permission! : Deadline Live With Jack Blood

patssle 12-11-2011 09:52 AM

What is this Google? If I Google it, will I find out?

None of those articles really touch on the specific legalities of the arrests and prosecutions...

Except...

Quote:

The legal argument prosecutors rely on in police video cases is thin. They say the audio aspect of the videos violates wiretap laws because, in some states, both parties to a conversation must consent to having a private conversation recorded.

rattlsnak 12-11-2011 11:22 AM

Proof of insurance? Never heard of that one. Dont have to have that in Georgia. If you get pulled over, they check it electronically..

John Rogers 12-11-2011 12:52 PM

In CA the insurance can also be checked from the car along with a bunch of other informational things the state keeps on you. For example, one of my students missed his Progressive payment and within 2 days he got a letter from DMV "demanding" he send his license back to them. He paid the insurance and it took 5 weeks before DMV was satisfied, seems their computer system is a bit lop-sided maybe??!! I figure that they want to make you feel intimidated if they take away your "papers" since they already know everything anyways.......

nota 12-11-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6425292)
I'm sorry, but if a local breaks the law, they should pay the fine as well....


No tickets to locals is BS

I am not talking about real law breaking
only the BS no seat belt, window tint to dark [but factory]
or the other little BS type infractions that motorcycle cops are all about

we want to live in mayberry with andy running the cops
and want NO BARNY FIFE's in our town
small town cops should respect the citizens
and do everything to accommodate the people they protect and serve
and I see no need for strict by the book cops esp motorcycle ticket machines
I DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A SPEED TRAP
or a place that sees locals as a revenue source for mickey mouse tickets


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