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rfuerst911sc 01-14-2012 04:11 AM

shower valve advice needed
 
I am in the midst of installing a 3rd bathroom in the basement of our home. I have installed a fiberglass 2 pc. shower stall and I'm now ready to frame the wall that the hot/cold plumbing will run through. Obviously this will also be the wall that the shower valve control body will be installed. So I figure my next step is to purchase the shower valve so I can stud the wall for easy access and support of the valve. I want a simple chrome setup but prefer pressure balancing and want a single handle. My price point is 100.00 - 150.00 and I want to purchase locally at Lowes or Home Depot. Finally I am familiar with Moen and Delta but there are others out there. What would you guys recommend for this situation ? Keep in mind this is a 3rd bathroom so it is not going to be used much, if anything I'll have to remember to exercise all the fixtures once in a while to keep everything working. I plan on purchasing today/tomorrow. About 99% of the time it is just the wife and I in the house. Any advice is appreciated.

Jim Richards 01-14-2012 04:24 AM

We are slowly getting rid of all the Price Pfister fixtures that originally installed in our home. I wouldn't recommend buying their products.

LWJ 01-14-2012 04:53 AM

My plumber was VERY strong on Moen and Delta. I too have had issues (catastrophic failure) with Price Pfister. I forgot until Jim reminded me.

By a decent valve. Forget it.

Larry

stomachmonkey 01-14-2012 04:59 AM

Moen = Made in America

Others = Not Made In America

azasadny 01-14-2012 05:24 AM

I like our Moen fixtures that were purchased 5-6 years ago but the Delta fixtures are going to be replaced as they don't last very long...

rfuerst911sc 01-14-2012 05:31 AM

For you guys that are using Moen which cartridge style do you have ? There is what I call the " old " style which is a brass insert about 3-4 inches long and about 3/4 inch in diameter. Then there is the " new " style which is a larger diameter shorter in depth style insert. I know the old style has been around forever and is proven. Not sure about newer style.

Rot 911 01-14-2012 06:10 AM

I like Moen because I can still get parts for 20 year old fixtures.

rick-l 01-14-2012 08:14 AM

I installed both Kohler and Price Fister and both have sent out parts for free when something went wrong. I don't think you can buy a non pressure balanced shower faucet.

pwd72s 01-14-2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6493098)
Moen = Made in America

Others = Not Made In America

Good point. Another suggestion...easily reached ball valve on each of the lines before reaching the fixture.

rick-l 01-14-2012 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6493098)
Moen = Made in America

Others = Not Made In America

Kohler has a plamt in France but I would bet the one you buy here would be made in Texas

gshase 01-14-2012 09:24 AM

Anything not made in CHINA. Read the box.

Zeke 01-14-2012 12:24 PM

Don't try to out wit yourself on a shower valve. But, if you can pick one up at a plumbers' supply, it might be a tad better. Lowes, HD, etc. apparently get theirs built to a price point. Kinda like buying Costco TV, the serial number is unique to Costco.

NO proof of this.

rfuerst911sc 01-14-2012 02:11 PM

Well right or wrong today I bought a Moen Adler shower valve setup. Appears to be a nice brass piece and will do what I want it to do. Total price out the door was $95.00 so I'm happy.

Hugh R 01-14-2012 02:47 PM

If you can, put in an emergency shut off valve like those under sinks. I never understood why they don't do this on showers and baths. If you have to pull it out you have to shut the water off to the whole house.

rfuerst911sc 01-14-2012 03:07 PM

Yes I am planning on installing shut off valves for that exact reason.

ShakinJoe 01-14-2012 06:02 PM

Grohe.....made in Germany.

Groesbeck Hurricane 01-14-2012 06:26 PM

Go to a local dealer not a little box.

We like the look and jobs from Moen. Have Kohler also. Like both.

look 171 01-14-2012 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 6494060)
If you can, put in an emergency shut off valve like those under sinks. I never understood why they don't do this on showers and baths. If you have to pull it out you have to shut the water off to the whole house.

I don't install much of Delta, or Moen products, but many of the other slightly upper end companies have their shut offs built into the valve. Take the trim off and half a turn with a flat screw driver and its off.

I would spend a little more and get a Grohe, or Newport brass. You can always get parts for those. I have never been a big fan of Kohler, but they are OK too.

I stay away from the home centers. All junk IMO.

Scuba Steve 01-15-2012 05:04 AM

I like Grohe, and have had pretty good luck with Delta holding up over time. The most recent failure I can think of is with a Moen, but that was in a kitchen sink application.

rfuerst911sc 01-15-2012 01:00 PM

Guys the Moen is installed. I have not put water to it yet but all initial plumbing has been hooked up. Thanks for all the advice. SmileWavy


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