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fastfredracing 01-22-2012 04:41 PM

A grown man steals the basketball from your 6 year old son twice, how do you react?
 
We went to the indoor water park for my kids 6 th b day this weekend. We were shooting baskets in our own little corner of the pool. There was a guy probably about my age with a few kids with him. They were roughhousing, and horsing around.
The guy was grabbing up every ball around him, and throwing baskets. The first time, my kid was going for the ball, and was touching it but did not really have it yet, but the guy snatched it from right under him. I let this one slide, did not really bother me too much but I thought what an inconsiderate jack off this guy was . Not 10 minutes later, he grabs a ball right out of my kid's hands. I mean, my kid already had both hands on the ball, and was swimming with it, the guy had to yank it from his hands. This is a 6 year old, not a teenager.
Instant Def-con 5. I am sure you know what my first thought was. Then I thought, maybe I should say something to the guy, but I was already hot under the collar, and thought what if he mouths off?. I chose to just leave the pool and get away from said jackass, and make the problem go away with the least amount of drama.
Would this set you off? I went back up to my room ,and I have to admit , I was dwelling on it for a while.

Dantilla 01-22-2012 04:43 PM

Better to defuse than add fuel. You did good. The guy probably wasn't mean, just totally clueless.

redstrosekNic 01-22-2012 04:45 PM

It's not worth giving the creep the satisfaction of confrontation.

VaSteve 01-22-2012 04:46 PM

I have a six year old. I could explain to him that the up was a jerk. It's not like asking candy from a baby that would just cry..... But, I do think that I would go have a talk with the guy depending on the circumstances.

Was it a true adult, like another kids dad? I can't imagine another dad taking the ball from a kid at a family place like that. Maybe was he with his parents? You know, special needs?

fastfredracing 01-22-2012 04:48 PM

Nope , grown man, I am assuming 40-45. Assuming he was playing with his own kids, but not sure. I fixed on the guy for a minute, and sized him up. Nothing abnormal about him I could tell, just a little obnoxious I guess, maybe he just got caught up in the moment.

Joeaksa 01-22-2012 04:53 PM

Next time talk with the life guards. He was being way over the top and needed some "chill time" that the life guards can provide with out it getting difficult.

VaSteve 01-22-2012 04:53 PM

In that case I would have given him the "dude, seriously?" and let it be. He's probably a clueless tool.

masraum 01-22-2012 04:56 PM

I'd be pissed. I'm not sure what I'd do.

nostatic 01-22-2012 05:01 PM

Some people are morons. If you called him on it, he probably wouldn't understand what the problem was. In his world view, he didn't "steal" anything - he was playing with kids. Some people just have an odd sense of what is fun. He probably is either a frustrated ex-athlete who never got over it, or was the kid who never got picked for the team and never got over that. It is amazing how many 5 year old kids are out there masquerading as adult 40 year olds...

stealthn 01-22-2012 05:08 PM

Did everyone turn into politically correct weenies over the weekend?

You call him out infront of everyone really loud, if he lips off; you drift him.


Too many people need their ass kicked these days to smarten them up.



Don't mess with my kids....

Zeke 01-22-2012 05:12 PM

You guys are nutz. If this happened on my watch, I would have been in the pool clothes on or whatever. Now, I'm gettin' a little long in the tooth to be jumping over fences in a single bound, but that's the way it went down when sch!it happened to my charges.

Never had to throw a punch. I guess just the violet approach sealed the deal.

I remember the time some jerkoff was tapping on the window of my teen daughter's bedroom window. I caught wind of that and chased that little dick for 15 minutes at a dead run. The thing is, I never even saw him. But I covered every street in the immediate area and the park as well.

I'm sure he saw me. Never saw the kid again. I think I heard he dropped out of school.

Nice work out too.

BeyGon 01-22-2012 05:33 PM

was there a chance the guy was just dumb, thought the ball was one his kids ball and took it away from the interloper?

Tishabet 01-22-2012 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6511246)
Would this set you off?

Oh yes :mad:

You did the right thing.

enzo1 01-22-2012 07:33 PM

yes, you did the right thing but if he makes the mistake of touching or hurting your child in any way, well here's some inspiration.... notice this guy is inappropriate with his actions... <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/268F5osfi8c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Bob Kontak 01-22-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 6511315)
Don't mess with my kids....

Word. I would have gotten stupid real fast.

craigster59 01-22-2012 07:39 PM

2 behind the ear...

enzo1 01-22-2012 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=stealthn;6511315


Too many people need their ass kicked these days to smarten them up.



.[/QUOTE]I doubt he'd get smarter:) Maybe get the ball and take your kids place.... hehe

5String43 01-22-2012 07:50 PM

Re: Don't mess with my kids? Abso-freakin'-lutely!

Baz 01-22-2012 07:59 PM

First 3 words out of my mouth woulda been "Hey ass wipe...."

That is usually a good attention getter....

FastDave 01-22-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 6511283)
Next time talk with the life guards. He was being way over the top and needed some "chill time" that the life guards can provide with out it getting difficult.

aren't most lifeguards just kids themselves???

ShakinJoe 01-22-2012 08:17 PM

My first thought is clueless.

My second thought is pervert.

You HAVE to tell him to get his hands off your kid in similar fashion to how you flogged that guy at your shop. Think mama grizzly protecting her cubs type of demeanor.

I have reacted and in some cases over-reacted to things like this and I gotta tell you Fred...I have not regretted ANY action I have taken.

RANDY P 01-22-2012 08:17 PM

"What the hell are you doing? Give my kid his ball back....."

take it from there. I agree, too many people nowadays figure you won't say anything about it- out of Political Correctness or fear. I've said as much more for less.


rjp

chapo 01-22-2012 09:19 PM

pull him aside and explain to him he will get beat down, nice and polite like.

DanielDudley 01-23-2012 02:55 AM

I would have just said something like, ''Hey, easy around the Kid !''or something like that. The guy obviously reverted to thirteen in his mind.

Rick V 01-23-2012 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielDudley (Post 6511935)
I would have just said something like, ''Hey, easy around the Kid !''or something like that.

And take it from there. Most people will back up at that point. If he sounds off.....Game on!

paulgtr 01-23-2012 04:35 AM

don't leave your 6 year old alone in a pool with an adult? kids always wind up in the wrong place at the wrong time and can get hurt.
if the guy is a dick head, well then he can deal with me instead of me watching him messing with my kid

cashflyer 01-23-2012 06:03 AM

You should have immediately taken your kid out of the pool and run to your hotel room. I suggest barricading yourself in, and then building a safe fort with the mattress and pillows.

Whatever you do, you absolutely don't want to show your kid that he should ever stand up for himself, or give him the impression that he shouldn't be a complete wuss when he grows up.


Are you really the same guy who let off at a customer recently?

sc_rufctr 01-23-2012 06:08 AM

Yes that would set me off but you did the right thing.

Jerks like that are not worth the trouble. You also provided an excellent example to your son. Well done.

Geronimo '74 01-23-2012 06:19 AM

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fastfredracing 01-23-2012 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 6512050)
You should have immediately taken your kid out of the pool and run to your hotel room. I suggest barricading yourself in, and then building a safe fort with the mattress and pillows.

Whatever you do, you absolutely don't want to show your kid that he should ever stand up for himself, or give him the impression that he shouldn't be a complete wuss when he grows up.


Are you really the same guy who let off at a customer recently?

I agree, watching daddy get hauled away with assualt charges would be a great lesson for a 6 year old boy . This was the wrong time, and wrong place . It would have all been caught on camera, with 20 witnesses or so.
I don't think I was capable of having a conversation with the guy, One smart comment , and It would have elevated quickly .

VaSteve 01-23-2012 07:51 AM

See you know yourself then and that's probably a good thing.

paulgtr 01-23-2012 07:55 AM

intervening doesn't have to escalate the situation. you don't even have to be confrontational. just put yourself between the kid and the adult. eye contact also works. and if he bumps into you trying to grab a basketball in a pool with kids around he is going to look like an idiot.

HardDrive 01-23-2012 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 6511285)
In that case I would have given him the "dude, seriously?" and let it be. He's probably a clueless tool.

+1

I would simply say, "Excuse me, but my son is playing with that ball. He's to young to participate in your game." All business.

cashflyer 01-23-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6512231)
I agree, watching daddy get hauled away with assualt charges would be a great lesson for a 6 year old boy .

I said "stand up" - I didn't say you had to break the leg off your pool chair and bash the guy's skull in with it. There's probably a middle ground between that and full retreat.
Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6512231)
I don't think I was capable of having a conversation with the guy, One smart comment , and It would have elevated quickly

Well, given that, I guess what you did was best for you. You're kid is only six, so I'm sure there will be plenty more teaching opportunities during his formative years.

Head416 01-23-2012 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 6512231)
I don't think I was capable of having a conversation with the guy, One smart comment , and It would have elevated quickly .

I walk away from a lot of situations for this same reason. I don't have a good track record of keeping my cool after somebody sets me off. I've decided I'd rather not become that guy. It seems awfully justified to me in the moment then after the fact I see myself from other people's perspectives and I wonder when I became the one that went off the deep end.

tharbert 01-23-2012 09:11 AM

I'd have to weigh the pros of me feeling good confronting the a$$hat vs. my exposing my kid to grownups behaving badly. Reminds me of this new TV ad.

fastfredracing 01-23-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashflyer (Post 6512325)
I said "stand up" - I didn't say you had to break the leg off your pool chair and bash the guy's skull in with it. There's probably a middle ground between that and full retreat.
Well, given that, I guess what you did was best for you. You're kid is only six, so I'm sure there will be plenty more teaching opportunities during his formative years.

Pool chairs were those chinsly plastic ones, so that was out. This guy kept trying to make 100 yard baskets, and I watched him almost bean a few other people. I wanted to wing him in the side of the face with the b ball, and see where it went from there. I took a minute to think about it , and just left , figured it was the smart thing to do .
Please do not think this was a retreat out of cowardice. Just decided it was better to leave this one alone. My kid did not seem to bothered by it, we were having a blast.
I wished I had done what VaSteve, and Harddrive suggested. I was a little bothered that I let it slide, but I do not always have a cool head.

lonewolf 01-23-2012 09:51 AM

You know yourself better than anyone.
Every situation is different and should be handled accordingly.
Tough call. It's your sons birthday.don't want it spoiled by some confrontation with an idiot.
In your sitch I would have let him know you were watching .if it kept up I would have said something.
Kids always remember when you stick up for them.

I had a similar sitch happen to me a couple summers ago at a birthday/pool party.
My firends little girl who I looked after was in the pool with some other kids having fun on an air mattress. This adult ,maybe a parent I don't know thought it would be fun to toss the kids into the air from the mattress. Maybe his kids liked it but all I heard was a deafening scream and then B swimming to the edge of the pool crying her eyes out scared to death.It got everyones attention and I was over there in a milli second. When she told me what happened I looked at the guy and he came over to say sorry and I just said Is this your little girl?he said no and I said RIGHT. STAY AWAY FROM HER. Then I sat on the diving board and watched him till he got out .
I'll say this .He's lucky her mother was not there.
When you see that protective motherly instinct kick in, look out

HelmetHead 01-23-2012 09:54 AM

Pretend to play with your 6year old in the pool....Look for another basketball to beam said A-hole upside his head....then again pretend to scold 6year old for missing your chunk for said a-holes head!

VINMAN 01-23-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6512273)
+1

I would simply say, "Excuse me, but my son is playing with that ball. He's to young to participate in your game." All business.

Best answer. ( although knowing myself, I wouldnt have been that calm.)


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