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A Seminar Concept - Tell Me If You Think This Has a Chance...
This is just a working draft...what do you think?
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"Spend Analysis and Specification Development Using Failure Interpretation Seminar - a Two Day Seminar, $1,195/student Held at Hooters"
Just an idea...
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sounds interesting-
seems to be missing the terms "lively discusions", "fun way to look at the subject"
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Looks cool. Why is this thread only rated one star??
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As we move into production, I'd go.
I like the flow and lay out, Mike. I would add a FAR discussion to attract the government folks or perhaps more importantly, those companies doing business with the government.
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Paul, great idea! Sure could use a guy to help out with G# experience and privi mil background! Someone who has even contributed to the book and knows the lay of the land so to speak...hmmm....who could that be!
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You're traveling to them? If so, I assume you'll have a minimum number of students required for a "class"?
I think you need to hit a little harder of differentiation. When I see something like this, I assume it will be a guy reading me powerpoints at the front of the room. I'd talk a bit more about the PEs (practical exercises) and if you are doing a lot of "active learning" then highlight that. You also should probably have a website with description/pictures/etc and think about a longer-term persistent presence for students (eg a message board where they can ask you questions, etc). |
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Because Mike rates his own thread.
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I don't know what corporations typically pay for these types of things, but $1195 sounds high and 95 sounds silly to me. If it's $1200 to do this, then say 1200.
Another thought from left field: I think of seminar as a larger group. If only 3 need the training, is it still a seminar? Just thinking out loud. |
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When we bring in the first aid/CPR trainer, it's $750 for ten people (4 hour class). When I get sent to internal corporate training, my location is typically billed anywhere from $100-$300 per day person. |
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Nostats - good point. The idea and flva would be to work and learn.
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Zeke - good point. Why beat a bush (unless it is into that), $1200/ is good.
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The issue with minimum number is that you obviously have some fixed cost for travel to a particular location. That comes out of student #1's tuition. If there is no student #2 you're bumming. If there are 20 students you're happy.
Also consider the dynamic that you want in the seminar. Are you willing to do one-on-one training? Do you want some element of lecture? Do you want people working in pairs or small groups on exercises? Those all go into figuring your class size. Also figure maximum size as well. There are optimal numbers for these types of things depending on how they are configured and flow. Paul, I've watched a few Holiday Inn Express commercials in my day ![]() |
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Between you, Paul and myself - I think we might be able to make a lil money on the side...
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1.2k isn't unreasonable for these type of technical courses. if i was in industrial engineering i'd go for it.. assume lots of porsche content that is.. : )
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Spend Analysis and Specification Development Using Failure Interpretation on Picking up MILF's Seminar - a Two Day Seminar, $1,195/student Held at your Facility
Perhaps this seminar would attract me....I'm spending a fortune chasing middle aged trim. Failur rate is low but I got some QC problems ![]()
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Performance and Quality are mutually exclusive! I always preferred quantity over quality anyway...
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the real pitch is to write it so the managers will want to force all their engineers to attend (even if it wastes their productive time)
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Yup - Marketing 101 I guess:
The 4 rules of Persuasion: 1. State outcomes and benefits 2. Substantiate benefits with proofs of concept 3. Apply benefits to particular context (win themes) 4. Recommend a solution to address the problem BTW - these rules when applied proper work great on MILFs!
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