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HardDrive 02-11-2012 09:17 PM

Converting a 900cc Ducati engine to a single, how hard?
 
If I bought a carbed 900cc Ducati engine, how hard would it be to convert it to a single? I'm guess not that hard, since I drove my 900SS with a fouled plug on one cylinder, and it ran.....with admittedly less power.....

Could it be as simple as removing the piston, sealing off the case, and removing the wiring for the missing cylinder?

slodave 02-11-2012 09:23 PM

No answer whatsoever. But, why (short of the obvious less power)?

TheMentat 02-11-2012 09:55 PM

It would probably run smother if it were properly balanced to run on one cylinder...

maxnine11 02-11-2012 10:16 PM

Ducati already did that (sort of) quite some time ago.

http://www.sigmaperformance.com/mono18big.jpg

The Supermono is a gorgeous bike.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-b468uvCIA2...25281%2529.jpg

I have an old 450 single ... i wouldn't describe it as 'smooth'.
Although a rebuild is probably due.

rfuerst911sc 02-12-2012 04:41 AM

That is a nice looking machine.

pavulon 02-12-2012 05:26 AM

was more than one ever made? I hope not as the possibility of owning one would haunt me.

HardDrive 02-12-2012 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6552965)
No answer whatsoever. But, why (short of the obvious less power)?

So it could sit in a Royal Enfield Bullet frame.

http://www.enfieldmotorcycles.com/fo...07_6_04_12.JPG

Rot 911 02-12-2012 05:59 AM

I would think it would vibrate terribly. The crank is balanced for two pistons.

oldE 02-12-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot 911 (Post 6553353)
I would think it would vibrate terribly. The crank is balanced for two pistons.

At best, you'd need a new crank.

Les

motion 02-12-2012 01:12 PM

I have a buddy that made a single out of a new Ducati 1098. Remove hardware, fab block off plate, re-balance crank (the tricky part). It can certainly be done.

5String43 02-12-2012 03:25 PM

Good God, why would you?

pavulon 02-12-2012 04:00 PM

oh man...wikipedia has total supermono production run of 65...

HardDrive 02-12-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5String43 (Post 6554355)
Good God, why would you?

Because I'm an idiot with a checkbook.

jwasbury 02-12-2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 6554441)
oh man...wikipedia has total supermono production run of 65...

One of the sexiest, most coveted Ducatis of all time.

Hugo930 02-12-2012 05:26 PM

Nothing greater.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6554464)
Because I'm an idiot with a checkbook.


Bob Goding 02-12-2012 06:48 PM

---Vincent H.R.D did it many years ago, I worked with a guy had a Vincent 'Comet"---500cc
single. The rear barrel was removed and a blanking plate on the case. I dont know what they did inside. I travelled pillion on it daily for some months, [1959/60]----

Well I guess my memory is fading---I recalled 'Google is your friend' and came up with this----------

How the legendary Vincent Rapide V-Twin engine was concieved is certainly one of the most tantalizing legends in all of Classic British Motorcycle-dom. Phil Irving was sitting at the drawing board one day with two tracings of the 500cc single. As things got moved around, the top tracing roughly lined up with the bottom one (identical to the top) at such an angle as to look like a V-twin. With a little cajoling, he lined up the crankshaft centerlines & the timing idler gears & ended up with a 47.5 degree V-twin. The single you see, was canted forward at 23.75 degrees, so this just duplicated that angle to the rear. In doing so, the 1936 Series A Vincent Rapide was born. The 994cc V-twin had 6.8:1 compression, made 45 hp & was good for 110 mph. Absolutely stellar performance in 1936! The Series A (or first generation) engine was somewhat crude when compared with later models, with its non-unit construction & exterior oil lines. The clutch & transmission was also weak. But the Vincent Rapide was still a stunning success for the tiny Vincent-HRD Motorcycle Co. It had a brazed lug frame with Vincent’s patented cantilever rear suspension & a girder front end.

dienstuhr 02-13-2012 10:22 AM

Here's a story about a fellow who did just that with his 748.

Ductalk

Again, what could possibly be so great about an Enfield Bullet frame that would make a grown-up person want to do that?

d.

HelmetHead 02-13-2012 11:50 AM

This guy did it with a HD motor...and built a beauty of a ride doing it!

Nortorious by Roger Goldammer

motion 02-13-2012 12:05 PM

SuperMono, yummmm. Last I heard they were going for around $75K a pop. I saw a guy at California Speedway tracking one once. Respekt!

jwasbury 02-13-2012 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 6556015)
I saw a guy at California Speedway tracking one once. Respekt!

I ran my Duc M900 in AMA club racing for a couple seasons at NHIS (Loudon, NH). The local race school (Penguin) owner, Jerry Wood, was racing his Supermono every weekend. The dude was seriously fast, and was usually winning the Formula 40 race (over 40 years old required, otherwise open class).

motion 02-13-2012 12:35 PM

Yeah, Jerry is fast. What's AMA "club" racing?

jwasbury 02-13-2012 12:41 PM

Jerry Wood's Supermono...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1329169065.jpg

"club" racing is amateur racing for $5 plastic trophies. The program at NHIS was pretty popular (probably still is) - LRRS "Loudon Road Race Series"

lrrsracing.com

matthew-s 02-13-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5String43
Good God, why would you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 6554464)
Because I'm an idiot with a checkbook.

That may very well be true, but technically (or even aesthetically) what is the advantage of 1 cylinder? I'd think for equal displacement, it would put out less power with more vibration than a 2 cylinder, or would it?


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