Let's go hunting!

[azasadny]

March 11, New York Times – (New York) Wily, elusive foragers invade upstate New York. Feral pigs have been ransacking farms in upstate New York eating apples and other crops, the New York Times reported March 11. They roam by night, picking cornstalks clean, making off with apple crops. They have almost no natural predators, but they have razor-sharp tusks and a voracious appetite for plants and animals. Their population can triple in a year. Feral pigs have long plagued parts of the southern and western United States, now they have become a problem in the Champlain Valley of New York, an agricultural heartland on the edge of the Adirondacks. They hunt at night and steer clear of humans. The pigs devour ground-nesting birds and reptiles, fawns and domestic livestock, native vegetation, and crops. Wildlife managers and researchers nationally are exploring control measures, from contraceptives and poisons to snares and aerial shooting. Some are even employing night-vision equipment and thermal imaging. In New York, the state’s ordinarily strict hunting rules have been relaxed for feral swine. The department of environmental conservation’s Web site advises those with small game licenses to “shoot and keep feral swine at any time and in any number.” Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/12/nyregion/feral-pigs-plaguing-upstate-new-york.html?smid=tw-nytmetro&seid=auto

[TimT]

[azasadny]

I knew there was a wild boar/feral pig problem in Georgia (southern part, I believe), but I didn't know there was a problem in New York state.

[GWN7]

We have several problem areas of them here. The offical story is they "escaped" and have been doing very well in the wild. The unoffical story is when the market bottomed out for them several years ago the owners turned them loose instead of feeding them anymore. All you need to hunt them is land owner permission and a licence from the previous year for any other game.

[Jim Bremner]

Cedar Ridge Aviation Helicopter Pig Hunt (no music) - YouTube

[porsche4life]

Originally Posted by Jim Bremner

Cedar Ridge Aviation Helicopter Pig Hunt (no music) - YouTube

What the hell is that gun?


And flying that low, that much, them boys won't live to see old age.....

[GWN7]

Why were they wearing camo while in a helicopter?

[porsche4life]

Rednecks, for them Camo counts as casual, and formal attire....

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by GWN7

Why were they wearing camo while in a helicopter?

Because they're douche bags.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

What the hell is that gun?

It's a garden variety M4, probably in .223. I kind of wonder if they ever worry about shell casings flying forward and hitting the rotor blades.

[aigel]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

What the hell is that gun?

I'd guess an AR15 in .308. I doubt .223 would work that well, but maybe someone with more time can read up on these guys.

It is a shame to think about all the meat going to waste, but I can see how you can't organize picking that all up and doing something with it over many square miles of farmland.

I would imagine that the pigs go nocturnal after a few rounds of getting fired at from the helicopter. The most effective method still is trapping IMHO with large corrals. OTOH, someone must pay these guys and the must make a living, so it must be pretty effective to use the chopper.

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[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by aigel

I'd guess an AR15 in .308. I doubt .223 would work that well, but maybe someone with more time can read up on these guys.

I don't know about that. It wasn't very loud and the part where they showed the buttstock on his shoulder while shooting showed very little recoil for a .308. I doubt many of those pigs died quickly. A .308 would have done some more damage.

[aigel]

The noise may just be tuned out by the overall noise level of the helicopter and the wind. Maybe .223 with surplus military ammo? That would be cheapest for sure. I wouldn't shot at a pig with .223, but I am not in a helicopter either when I go hunting.

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[GWN7]

Originally Posted by porsche4life

Rednecks, for them Camo counts as casual, and formal attire....

I understand all about that.....I have a camo chef hat and apron along with camo seatcovers on my pickup truck.

I was refering more to the absurdity of wearing attire that is designed to make you stealthy while being in a eggbeater that can be heard from a mile away while a police siren blasts away from underneath it......

[HardDrive]

Sounds like a .223 to me. A hard 'pop'. A .308 is more of a 'boom' like a .30-06. Very hard to tell with the noise and questionable audio.

Bugs me a bit. What kind of shot placement is there from a helicopter on a running animal? How do you know your not leaving wounded animals in the field?

[aigel]

Not sure if this is the same company, but they say they are using .223. You can be the gunner for $475 per hour.

Helicopter Hog Hunting and Helicopter Hunting Safety. Best Prices, Guaranteed.

I am not sure if they'll land for a couple of nice meat sows to take home though.

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[aigel]

Originally Posted by HardDrive

Sounds like a .223 to me. A hard 'pop'. A .308 is more of a 'boom' like a .30-06. Very hard to tell with the noise and questionable audio.

Bugs me a bit. What kind of shot placement is there from a helicopter on a running animal? How do you know your not leaving wounded animals in the field?

I thought that they followed up pretty well on pigs that did not go down hard. A pig usually doesn't go down hard and lay flat motionless unless it is lethally wounded. Of course, if this is done for profit, you have to wonder if they aren't trying to cut time and cost and minimize follow up shooting.

While this video isn't for everyone, you have to realize that it isn't hunting, rather than depredation. It's like the exterminator coming by your house putting out poison for the rats in your garage. There you wouldn't bring up hunting ethics either. I am always careful condemning activities that aren't my cup of tea but legal, especially if it comes to hunting or closely related activities. The last thing the hunting community needs is to be split up in camps and become an easy target to the so called "animal rights" activists.

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[mattdavis11]

It's a huge problem, thus the Texas legislature allowed hunting of non indigenous species of swine via helicopters. Javelina are protected. Most land owners here want them gone because of the destruction they cause to a farmer's crop, the foliage for, and fencing of a rancher's live stock. Ground hunting and trapping isn't enough to even make a dent. These guys are hired by the land owner to do it, or make an agreement to sell helicopter hunts. The land owner has to have a permit, so does the company selling hunts.

Those kind of pigs really aren't very tasty if they weigh over 80lbs. However, there are folks who would give a week of wages to pick them up after a slaughter such as this. But it's usually a proposition where clearing the field, have all you want, exists.

[manbridge 74]

It should be noted that bacon is the candy of meats.

[vash]

Originally Posted by manbridge 74

It should be noted that bacon is the candy of meats.

ooo....moment of silence please.



in my limited experience..a hog infestation is not that big of a problem. everyone complains and whines..but not one single time have i or anyone i know of been granted free access to help with the problem.