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03-31-2012 01:13 AM |
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Originally Posted by 944Larry
(Post 6658035)
think real estate attorney on this one.
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Absolutely!
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Originally Posted by 70SATMan
(Post 6658047)
You stated that the mention of the easement is not on the deeds? How about the abstract of the properties? That is were the easement would be spelled out. Typically the easement use is spelled out but, can be construed as an easement for utilities if the lot is landlocked. That doesn't sound like there is that issue since you mentioned they use another driveway. Just because they are allowed to travel that stretch of property to get to theirs does not mean that they can develop on it.
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There is only one person alive ("she") who knew the easement exists as it was granted by her father (deceased). I'm sure my grandfather didn't know when he purchased the additional property from another party years later. Actually there is another property owner involved too for a portion of the easement, and it's a big surprise to him also. He's a LEO, and the one who has mentioned the possibility that an easments "can" terminate (kind of the opposite of adverse possession) if the easement has not been used for a set amount of time (now 35 years). "Her" two acre lot is indeed technically landlocked, but my grandfather also deeded 1/3 of an adjacent "road frontage" acre to her brother and they have been sharing a common driveway for ingress/egress for decades. I do not believe that road has access to water.
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Originally Posted by Eric Coffey
(Post 6658260)
I believe the OP's situation is the exact opposite though. there is an easement on his property for ingress/egress to the adjacent property. However, that easement has not been used for several years, and an alternative road/driveway has been used by the owners of the adjacent property for several years. The original easement is only now being used (with possible encroachments beyond the easement boundaries).
KC - If I have any of that turned around, please clarify.
IMO (not a lawyer, but in the RE biz) a right of easement usually does not expire. It is non-possessory by definition, and thereby "immune" from adverse possession (by the easement grantee). So, the owners of the adjacent property are likely well within their right to "reignite" that easement. However, they should only be using it for the intended/specified purpose, and do so without encroaching on any other property outside of the easement boundary. Again, local laws prevail and you really need to get a hold of the specific statutes for your area.
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You've pretty much got it except the the easement has NEVER been used at all...but now they "intend" to use it for water access (along with a new driveway). Here is a quote I found online:
Termination of Easements
Unlike other types of interests in land, easements may be terminated by abandonment under certain circumstances. The easement holder's simply stating a desire to abandon the easement is not enough, because words alone are legally insufficient to constitute abandonment. However, if the easement holder intends to abandon an easement and also takes actions which demonstrate that intent, that may be sufficient to show abandonment of the easement, and the easement may be terminated. An action that qualifies as showing "intent to abandon" an easement is an easement holder's non-use of the easement for an extended period of time.
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Originally Posted by rusnak
(Post 6658343)
a covenant "runs with the land" in perpetuity. A covenant would be recorded on both parcels. An easement can expire for various reasons. A logical starting point would be to get a title report on all affected parcels, and get copies of all underlying documents to title insurance exceptions. These would be the limitations to fee simple absolute title.
If you built a wall, or fence, or planted an orchard across the easement, then you might say that the easement was abandoned. The fact that the other party was using another driveway is an interesting wrinkle. You should request a copy of the easement or pay for a copy from the county recorder.
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I now have a copy of the easement that was filed in 1977 at the registrar of deeds in that county. After my grandparents passed, "our" estate attys provided property assessments that show none of this, and it only took the registrar's clerk a few minutes to locate the easement doc once I explained the situation.
Thank you all for your comments. I/We're hoping to sit down face-to-face with the other party and resolve this amicably as both families have lived in the community for 100+ years. It's rural land with primarily wells and septic tanks and "her" land won't perk according to my dad although they had been living there for years in a house that's been abandoned (since her husband passed a few years ago). I suspect her son is driving this with an intent to rebuild on "her" property. Oh well...time to "lawyer up" :).
ps: I would have been willing to write a check for a reasonable amount to remove the easement, and we would have likely granted permission to run a water line accross our property BUT for their "sneakiness". My dad (and his brothers) were totally caught by surprise and now I'm prepared to spare no expense in fighting this as it's become a "matter of principle" for our family.
Thanks again!
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