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The apple tv is one sweet little box for $99. We have 2 iPhones 2 iPads and MacBook pro at home. All those devices stream to it effortlessly.
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It was nice the other day. I was in the kitchen and I was streaming Pandora from my phone to the Apple TV and plying it through the home surround sound system. I could go anywhere in the house and the music was streaming from my phone and sounded great. If I wanted to skip a song the phone was right with me. It even more amazing to stream video. It looks fine on my 60 inch TV.
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Hey, that phone works for Jethro Gibbs! It wouldn't for McGeek, though.

I'm so over-phoned with an iPhone that I should write a comic strip.
There's probably an app for that too!
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The thing is this, if you work for a company with a lot of sensitive data you're mainly stuck on BB for now. For instance, I can access the tax and credit card information for just about anyone on the planet from my BB. I can do that because RIM offers some massive encryption features both server side, and client side that Apple does not.

So when BB was saying they would leave the consumer market and focus on corporate, well that's why. GOOD server (the apple solution for BES) is still a long way off from offering these options for a myriad of really boring reasons that I won't go into.
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I use my BB a lot for email and I really struggle with typing on my iPhone. I wonder how Apple will fix this. I'm totally stuck on BB for work stuff, as I travel a lot.
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Obama / gubmint. is all BB as well. Big users.

I actually liked BBOS and the overall functionality of the BB. I just couldn't stomach the prices they were charging for them- compared to what else I could buy for the price at contract time it was a no brainer. I always thought they were well built. I just got tired of lag.

If they only updated the hardware......
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The thing is this, if you work for a company with a lot of sensitive data you're mainly stuck on BB for now. For instance, I can access the tax and credit card information for just about anyone on the planet from my BB. I can do that because RIM offers some massive encryption features both server side, and client side that Apple does not.

So when BB was saying they would leave the consumer market and focus on corporate, well that's why. GOOD server (the apple solution for BES) is still a long way off from offering these options for a myriad of really boring reasons that I won't go into.
This is the only reason RIM / Blackberry is still around. Apple & Driod aren't up to that level of security just yet.

I have a work BB and a personal Apple iPhone4. No comparison between the two -- the Apple iPhone is far superior.

The author of the article thought he was cute with the fruit analogy. But IMHO, the comparison between Blackberry and Apple ends with the name of the product.

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The thing is this, if you work for a company with a lot of sensitive data you're mainly stuck on BB for now. For instance, I can access the tax and credit card information for just about anyone on the planet from my BB. I can do that because RIM offers some massive encryption features both server side, and client side that Apple does not.

So when BB was saying they would leave the consumer market and focus on corporate, well that's why. GOOD server (the apple solution for BES) is still a long way off from offering these options for a myriad of really boring reasons that I won't go into.
The iPhone has a Cisco VPN client native, what else do you need?

The beauty of the other devices besides the BB are that you don't need a BES to connect into the email system that is already available to the web.

How well did your BB serve you during their four day global outage last year?
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the market focus as I see it at the moment.

BB - Business security
Microsoft - consumer productivity
Apple/Android - consumer amusement/entertainment

There is over lap of course, as each tries to gain ground on competition.
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I use my BB a lot for email and I really struggle with typing on my iPhone. I wonder how Apple will fix this. I'm totally stuck on BB for work stuff, as I travel a lot.
Apple knows they're weak on the input side, so they adopted the voice to text which both Msft and Android had going on. ...but only "texting" allows input privacy (a meeting or in public.) And for that hard-keys or hand-writing win the productivity (speed) award.
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The iPhone has a Cisco VPN client native, what else do you need?

The beauty of the other devices besides the BB are that you don't need a BES to connect into the email system that is already available to the web.

How well did your BB serve you during their four day global outage last year?
1. I need full encrypted channels between the device, the server and the wireless network.

2. I need the ability to remotely destroy the device per DOD standards.

3. Also, I need the BES. It handles the encrypted channels, it's compatible with RSA, and it lives in my data center.

As far as their outage, I hardly remember it. All of our wireless devices have had outages from time to time.
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I use my BB a lot for email and I really struggle with typing on my iPhone. I wonder how Apple will fix this. I'm totally stuck on BB for work stuff, as I travel a lot.
There is a fix, but Apple won't buy it. Swype is the best way to input text on a mobile device.
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There is a fix, but Apple won't buy it. Swype is the best way to input text on a mobile device.
Yeah, that's it.. .

Here is their overlay for it..







Seriously, swyping is not the best.
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I had a BB and I prefer the iPhone. I can type very fast one handed.
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I use my BB a lot for email and I really struggle with typing on my iPhone. I wonder how Apple will fix this. I'm totally stuck on BB for work stuff, as I travel a lot.
I use the voice dictation feature to compose my emails. It is surprisingly accurate.
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1. I need full encrypted channels between the device, the server and the wireless network.

2. I need the ability to remotely destroy the device per DOD standards.

3. Also, I need the BES. It handles the encrypted channels, it's compatible with RSA, and it lives in my data center.

As far as their outage, I hardly remember it. All of our wireless devices have had outages from time to time.
1. VPN covers that
2. This has been supported since 2005 with ActiveSync running on Exchange 2003 SP2
3. RSA has been compromised and Exchange can handle the encryption duties

Many years ago if you wanted a wireless device to connect to your corporate email system you got a BlackBerry because that is all there was. Times have changed and RIM has failed to change with them. The email juggernaut even went so far as to launch a tablet device without an email client.

Unless RIM finds a way to make a time machine they are done.
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The DoD has already signed deals and both iOS and Android devices are becoming part of the technosphere. ALC2015 outlines a major push to training on mobile devices. Blackberry isn't on the radar there. They're finished.

iPad is now making inroads into the enterprise and they've still got the huge consumer and content side of things.
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1. VPN covers that
2. This has been supported since 2005 with ActiveSync running on Exchange 2003 SP2
3. RSA has been compromised and Exchange can handle the encryption duties

Many years ago if you wanted a wireless device to connect to your corporate email system you got a BlackBerry because that is all there was. Times have changed and RIM has failed to change with them. The email juggernaut even went so far as to launch a tablet device without an email client.

Unless RIM finds a way to make a time machine they are done.
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1. I can't have my users logging into a VPN client to us their device, that's placing the devices security on the end user to launch the client. I need the device controlled entirely by the secure server. Secondly, no one is using Ciscos VPN solutions anymore, well no one in finance. It's all SLL and Juniper now.

2. Not exclusively on Exchange. Only our lower level email systems are on Exchange. I need multi-platform support (another thing that RIM provides) This may be something we can do with GOOD, however we're working on it with them.

3. The RSA solution we use has not been compromised in any way.
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I use my BB a lot for email and I really struggle with typing on my iPhone. I wonder how Apple will fix this. I'm totally stuck on BB for work stuff, as I travel a lot.
Practice. When I first gave up my BB I also struggled typing on the iPhone. My learning curve was about 4-6 months before I was back to similar speeds.
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I have both and am in my third year with an iPhone. I practice plenty and don't see ever matching my BB proficiency. Nothing I text or email on my iPhone is too important, but my BB is my job.
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