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chocolatelab 04-17-2012 09:02 PM

first time target shooting
 
So...

Spring break just wrapped up. Spring break started with a family trip in the rv to Mammoth for 3 days of skiing. Amazing spring skiing, blue bird days and lots of sun screen.

On the Friday of spring break a neighbor and I took Bryce (8), neighbors son (7), other son (13) and his friend ( 13) out near Mojave desert, BLM Land, Spangler Hills Area out to ride dirt bikes, quads and do some target shooting.

Dirt bikes and Quads got very little use.

My neighbors guns on the other hand got worn out.

He brought a .22, .223 Ranch Rifle, 9mm, .357, and a 12 Gauge shotgun.

Bryce shot all but the .357.

The kids were amazing. We had a meeting about gun safety, how to handle the guns, rules for handling ect.

The kids did an awesome job!

1000 plus rounds and we had to drag them home.

Shopping list for me, .22 rifle with scope and .22 pistol.

Recommendations are appreciated, applying for license as we speak.

I've got some great video from iPhone just got to figure out how to upload.

The rifle below has amazing kick.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334725195.jpg

futurefun 04-17-2012 09:22 PM

Ruger 10-22 & 22-45 are a fun place to start. You may check out The Nutnfancy Project on youtube for some gun reviews, gun safety & videos on training your kids to be responsible shooters.

Embraer 04-17-2012 09:25 PM

+1 on the ruger 10-22

chocolatelab 04-17-2012 09:27 PM

ruger, thats made in AZ right?

slodave 04-17-2012 09:32 PM

They have a casting plant in AZ. They're based out of Connecticut.

chocolatelab 04-17-2012 09:39 PM

I have to tell you I was mildly suspect about taking the kids out shooting.

I have dragged Bryce out to a ton of things. Rock climbing, dirt biking, skiing, surfing, camping, hiking, white water rafting, and off-loading.

He is always good to go.

This was much funner than I anticipated and amazingly fulfilling.

Really a cool experience. I can't seem to put my finger on exactly why.

Jim Bremner 04-17-2012 09:44 PM

Project Appleseed Home

2nd the 10/22 and 22/45 Stick with .22s for a while. A daisy Red Rider will work wonders in the backyard.

Care-full being on the right side of the .223 ranch riffle I got my cheek split by an empty shell getting ejecting out of one.

Lothar 04-18-2012 03:49 AM

Now shoot a lot, learn basic safety and marksmanship and get thee to a USPSA or IDPA match for some fun run and gun competition. It's what to do when putting holes in paper gets boring.

lane912 04-18-2012 05:05 AM

or you start making bigger holes farther away-

join a range, lots of good folks at gun clubs. very helpful this is the one i am a member of Douglas Ridge Rifle Club


shooting is a sport

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svandamme 04-18-2012 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chocolatelab (Post 6694820)

looks like a bit of a weird position to fire that rifle..
especially if it kicks.

Somebody is going to get a Scope-eye sooner or later that way..
+ it doesn't seem like a decent way to be accurate at all.. there's no balance in that setup. Difficult to find and repeat your hold

A sling is prolly a bit to soon for kids their age with a fullsize rifle..
Go prone and use logs or a bipod, or bring some kind of table or bench along..

porsche4life 04-18-2012 05:56 AM

Look at the Walter G22 for a fun .22 rifle. More fun than a 10/22 IMHO.

That and a buckmark pistol and you'll be good.

tabs 04-18-2012 07:19 AM

Ditto on the Ruger 10/22..it is an inexpensive rifle that if you drop it in the dirt you are not going to cry.

Ruger 22 Autos are a fine way to go as well, or a Browning Challenger 22. for a pistola. I would also suggest as a bit more esoteric choich an older or even a new High Standard or maybe a Colt Match Target Woodsman of later/last vintage.

I think I would want a bit more variety than just a coupla Rugers. And 22's are the only way to fly..


There is a CHALLENGE to see how good ya can get...and that is the draw.

dhoward 04-18-2012 07:32 AM

Go with the rugers. They're reliable, inexpensive, and have good upgrade portential. You can always acquire more 'esoteric' firearms later. :)

Seahawk 04-18-2012 07:39 AM

Just a thought...kids love semi-autos but a nice bolt action or lever action are better at this age to teach them a bit of fire discipline. They are also, in my mind, safer for young shooters.

I started my son on a lever action Marlin.

There are a ton of used guns on the market for nearly nothing.

Pistols? I bought a Ruger Single Six .22 used and it is every bit as enjoyable as my MKII.

Also, paper targets are great but they sell cheap spinner targets that seem to make young shooters happy.

Enjoy. Great start.

chocolatelab 04-18-2012 07:43 AM

Scope eye was a big topic of conversation!

Gotta get the vids up.

Rusty Heap 04-18-2012 07:44 AM

A good first way to bring home the importance of proper gun handling and gun safety, is to graphically illustrate what happens when you don't.


Show these to the boys, I'm sure they'll get the point.


Guy put a .45 round into his own shoe. :rolleyes:


:eek:


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334763802.jpg



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334763827.jpg



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1334763850.jpg

svandamme 04-18-2012 10:19 AM

nice group of 1!!!

JavaBrewer 04-18-2012 10:19 AM

+1 on a Ruger 10/22 rifle. Get the basic model - they can be found all day long new in the low $200 price bracket. There are nearly limitless upgrades and gadgets to personalize it with down the road which is fun to do.

Bolt action is great but I think the semi-auto will be more entertaining in the long run. You can always start the boys off with just 1-2 rounds in the rotary magazine to enforce quality shots and limit Hollywood style shooting. :)

vash 04-18-2012 10:44 AM

how did that kid pictured not get clipped above the eye with the riflescope? that body positioning is crazy.

Jeff Higgins 04-18-2012 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seahawk (Post 6695395)
Just a thought...kids love semi-autos but a nice bolt action or lever action are better at this age to teach them a bit of fire discipline. They are also, in my mind, safer for young shooters.

I started my son on a lever action Marlin.

There are a ton of used guns on the market for nearly nothing.

Pistols? I bought a Ruger Single Six .22 used and it is every bit as enjoyable as my MKII.

Also, paper targets are great but they sell cheap spinner targets that seem to make young shooters happy.

Enjoy. Great start.

Best advice on this entire thread.

Semi-autos can be great for older, more disciplined shooters. They are a lot of fun. The problem is, they encourage a lack of discipline. That's the last thing a young shooter needs (or for that matter, most older shooters). The habits they develop at a young age will stick with them for life, for better or for worse. Poor shooting disciplin, deeply ingrained, is one hell of a tough thing to break later in life. I see far, far too many shooters who seem to feel they can make up for poor shooting through sheer volume.

A single shot bolt action is the rifle to start with for young shooters. There is a very real psychology at play here; if they really want to hit something, they really have to pay attention and get good. The notion in the back of your mind that there is always another try just a trigger pull away leads to sloppiness and laziness. I see it in adults all of the time - adults who should know better. But, shooting a lot is "fun", hitting is hard. Kids are particularly susceptable to this.

Don't think for a minute that you will maintain the discipline to "load just one or two" in that magazine for long, or that the kids would be happy with that for long. The only way to really stick with it, learning proper technique and discipline, is to have that one shot in the chamber the only shot. The only one available, the only one that matters - the one that has to hit. It's when that notion gets ingrained in the psyche that the real shooting begins. There are no shortcuts.


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