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Chuck Moreland 04-22-2012 09:37 PM

When did 12 ounces become a pint?
 
Thought I'd try out the Yard House. First time visit, these are apparently in many cities.

As the name suggests, they have a very large beer selection.

My wife ordered a bottle (12 ounces) and poured it in glass. I ordered up a pint on tap, the glass and fill level were identical to my wife's 12 ounce beer.

As any beer drinker knows, a pint is 16 ounces. The pint size glasses are very familiar.

I flagged the waitress, explaining I had ordered up a pint, assuming she brought the wrong beer. She said it was a pint. I set it next to my wife's 12 ounce beer, fresh out of the bottle, to illustrate the obvious.

She sends over the manager who also said it was a pint. He claimed the glass could theoretically hold a pint if filled to the very top, but they leave about 1/2 inch to avoid spillage when serving.

To prove his point, he heads off to measure the glass. Upon returning, he conceded the glass when filled to over flowing actually holds only 15 ounces.

With the 1/2 inch they under fill, that leaves just about 12 oz of beer in their "pint".

slodave 04-22-2012 09:42 PM

Haha. This has been around for a while. :) You can buy 12 oz. "pint" glasses.

trekkor 04-22-2012 09:49 PM

I don't like it.


KT

jyl 04-22-2012 09:52 PM

Rip off. Contact the local muckraker TV reporter. This is the sort of thing they'd like.

slodave 04-22-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trekkor (Post 6704937)
I don't like it.


KT

It's fine when they are charging 12oz prices. But it's used a lot to screw the customer over. Most don't notice the difference.

slodave 04-22-2012 10:02 PM

I used to frequent a pub that had two different pint glasses. Both were 16oz, but one had a rough bottom on the inside of the glass and a red dot on the bottom to tell the two apart. It was said that the rough bottom encouraged the bubbles to continue to form for the duration of the beer. Seems the British prefer that. Most patrons would get the normal glass, the regulars and Brits would get the special glass. After I became a regular, I started to get this glass with the red dot. I never noticed the rough bottom until I asked what the dot was for.

EDIT: After a quick read, it looks like the roughed up bottom helps with head retention.

Chuck Moreland 04-22-2012 10:06 PM

They're being intentionally deceptive. I won't go back.

I appreciate this is more of a trendy place than it is a real beer hall. But their theme is the beer. And they aren't even serving up a legitimate pour.

rusnak 04-22-2012 11:15 PM

The Yard House used to be called the Foot House, but they embellish, those bastards.

Porsche-O-Phile 04-22-2012 11:54 PM

Yard House sucks. There used to be one within walking distance in Long Beach when I lived there. I went twice. Both times I was terribly disappointed. Their whole schtick is that they have lots of beers available. The reality is that (yes) they do have a lot of beers available but if you don't buy something that's common (i.e. Bud, Coors or similar pisswater), it's likely to be old/skunked and don't bother complaining. They're also extremely overpriced.

You can do better elsewhere at a local microbrew pub.

Heel n Toe 04-23-2012 12:59 AM

My friend Phillip from Liverpool gave me what he termed as "a proper pint glass" that he brought over from the old country a few years ago. It's for Guinness and has the company logo on it and says PINT with an image of a crown just below it on the side opposite the logo.

I just put 16 oz. of water in a measuring cup and poured it in... it was about half an inch from the rim.

That's your problem, Chuck... you need to take your own glass into this place. :D

slodave 04-23-2012 01:01 AM

But is it roughed up on the inside, bottom?? :D

Heel n Toe 04-23-2012 01:03 AM

No, I just checked... whatchootalkinboutWillis?

slodave 04-23-2012 01:09 AM

See above. It has something to do with keeping the "head" longer.

Heel n Toe 04-23-2012 01:16 AM

Hmmm. I'm gonna ask Philly about that... interesting.

So those type glasses weren't just for stout?

slodave 04-23-2012 01:20 AM

Dunno anymore. :D I just remember the two different glasses.

Steve Viegas 04-23-2012 04:05 AM

You need an imperial pint, 20 oz.

72doug2,2S 04-23-2012 04:51 AM

Any drink that says it's a pint should be 21 oz. A pint as a drink in bar is not the same as a US pint measurement for other culinary purposes.

[Edit 20 oz]

ckissick 04-23-2012 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Viegas (Post 6705170)
You need an imperial pint, 20 oz.

Or Bavarian pint: 120 oz.

mossguy 04-23-2012 05:45 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1335188725.jpg
Bavarian Pint!

lane912 04-23-2012 06:00 AM

many beer distributors will sell glassware that resemble a pint glass but the bottom is a bit thicker touting that slipping a case or two into your stock of glasses can up your bar receipts. this was a problem several hundred years ago in england and ireland. they passed a simple law thus the logo etched onto the pint glass indicating that it is as true pint.
knowing this, if I order a beer and get one of the special glasses I won't go back-
this is Portland and beer is beer-


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