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my old track car was a corvette, and I went through LS1 engines like crazy, had cooling and oil issues, biggest waste of time and money I have ever experienced, and would never race a GM product again.
I have been around porsche race cars my whole life, so I am a bit partial, but even the 3.4 engines when built right were/are fairly reliable. I suppose if I were to do a swap, I would go with a rotary engine. |
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Because you have no interest into going "into the junkyard business", a broken car is worth $zero? :rolleyes: I suppose that if you have no interest in modern art, a Rothko or a Chagall is therefore worth $zero? You have a very fk'ed-up ticker. There are legions of people in this country and the world who know how to fix broken cars, some even enjoy it. Wait...this whole website is basically targeted towards them. A hot car with a bad motor that is easily swapped is considered *a find* to some of us, for the right price. They are anything but worthless in that place called the real world. Strange guy. :rolleyes: |
what is so wrong with putting another engine in a P-car? We up date, back date, put in different studs, cylinders, pistons, shocks, coil overs, torsion bars, brakes, exhaust systems, ignition systems, body parts, spoilers, air dams, oil coolers, after coolers and a lot of other stuff that ain't stock. Lets face it there are a lot of ways making them better, faster, more reliable, etc. The engine is just one big modification, so unless you have one that is exactly how it came off the line..........., I realize some do have these so you can object loudly.
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Engine swaps in dime-a-dozen Porsches don't bother me one bit, but there is not a lot of Porsche left in it afterwards. Depending on how you feel about Porsches in general, that may or may not be a problem.
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It's like putting a powerful Kawasaki motor in a Ducati. What's the big deal? :cool:
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It's worth $0 to me since I don't want it. It might be worth a different value to someone else. Hell, there are people that spend thousands of dollars for those Feebay abominations that pop up from time to time with MM engines that blow up after 50 miles, so YMMV.
That's the point. If you think it's worth $20k or whatever, go buy one. It'll look nice sitting up on concrete blocks in your hood in east LA as you part it out. It'll fit right into the context of that area. |
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Jeff, fine, you don't think its worth dick... So stay out, he is asking the value of the car, not what it is worth to you.....
Why you gotta piss in everyone else's cheerios man? |
Pissin' in Cheerios is what we do best here in the O.T.
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I care so much what you think.
Don't you have some petite 95-pound Asian woman to go bully to make yourself feel big right now or something? |
No, you'll have to do.
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Could care less whatever the rap is here but I question why the bastardized conversions always lean towards 'Cheby' motors. Why not some Ford's, Subi's, etc.? Eh' man, what you got to do is sheep it to Chip and Chop Foose and do a taco job on it.
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Because the LS series motors are cheap, light, make good power, and are fairly bulletproof
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Porsche 996 gets an LS1 V8 engine transplant - Top Speed |
how is an ls1 swap cheaper and more reliable then doing a rebuild of the porsche engine?
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So more like 415-450 HP to begin with, (depending on year and option), or 550 HP with a couple grand in upgrades. Down to 345 HP and now it sounds like a Camaro with glass-packs. Nice work. |
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I don't think there's a tremendous difference in dependability between a 996 motor and a LSx motor. If the Porsche motor breaks, it's expensive to fix. If the GM breaks, it's cheap. A complete brand new aluminum block for a 5.7L LS1, 6.0L LS2, or 6.2L LS3 is about a grand. What's a replacement case for a 3.4? The other piece to the puzzle is power. LSx motors come in many flavors, from 260hp 4.8L's to 505hp 7.0L's to 640hp supercharged 6.2L's.....bone stock. And the aftermarket support is unreal.if you start with a cheap used 345hp LS1 you can add cheap parts over time and end up in the 500hp range. How much would it cost to bring a Porsche 996 to 500hp without forced induction? Also, while most focus on the peak horsepower number, the GM LSx V-8 makes significantly more torque, and much more power over a broader range of rpms. That makes a big difference on the track. |
$6500. Imo.
BTW, I used to have a V8 914. Faster than stink, handled great, reliable as all get out. Couldn't wait to sell it. The flat six in a 996 is part of the package IMO and a V8 doesn't have the right soul. Others will see it differently and that's perfectly OK with me. |
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For cost per HP it beats anything else around. |
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