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szyzygy 06-27-2012 08:50 PM

All the PCA events seem to be on Saturday morning and I have previous commitment during that time.

How about Sunday mornings instead?

aigel 06-27-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by szyzygy (Post 6827542)
All the PCA events seem to be on Saturday morning and I have previous commitment during that time.

How about Sunday mornings instead?

Church!

What bugs me at a lot of events is that they start at o-dark thirty. Try the pomona swap meet! I don't get up early every morning to go to work during the week so I can beat that time even earlier to go to some stupid car show that could have started in the afternoon just fine! :D I guess most people running these have worked all their lives and now are retired and senile where they can't sleep late any more. :)

G

GWN7 06-27-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 6827492)
I think all Porsches are great. I think u may incur the wrath of the 924 and 944 guys though. I have not seen a 914 for many years. Rusted out in most of Canada but could still exist in Arizona and California?

You have to know where to look to find 914's in Canada.... :)

OP If you really want to go to the show find a hotel room and have at it. Lots of things to do and see that you don't need tickets to.

szyzygy 06-27-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 6827571)
Church!

What bugs me at a lot of events is that they start at o-dark thirty. Try the pomona swap meet! I don't get up early every morning to go to work during the week so I can beat that time even earlier to go to some stupid car show that could have started in the afternoon just fine! :D I guess most people running these have worked all their lives and now are retired and senile where they can't sleep late any more. :)

G

I don't go to church, but I figured that was the reason.

I would say I am 20 years younger than your average PCA member. I'm 37.

Flieger 06-27-2012 10:49 PM

I gotcha beat since I was born into it...

Got a 20 year certificate and I'm only 22. :)

rrental 06-27-2012 10:51 PM

So be it. I am over it. I wasn't mad at PCA, just very disappointed and surprised about the inflexibility. In my years of attending shows, seminars and organizing annual trade shows and social events I have never encountered this level of inflexibility.

The lady was very friendly and apologetic. She was just following instructions.

I would like to attend next year, but it might not be in driving range next few years.

szyzygy 06-27-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rrental (Post 6827682)
She was just following instructions.

That argument didn't work at Nuremburg

Flieger 06-27-2012 10:54 PM

And on Saturday mornings when I am home I like to ride my bike around the mountain roads, then go drive them in the afternoon. I've been there, done that with car shows. Unless it's a race I just do what I like best.

szyzygy 06-27-2012 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Flieger (Post 6827679)
I gotcha beat since I was born into it...

Got a 20 year certificate and I'm only 22. :)

You must have a cool dad

Flieger 06-27-2012 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by szyzygy (Post 6827691)
You must have a cool dad

Yes. :)

javadog 06-28-2012 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rrental (Post 6827682)
So be it. I am over it. I wasn't mad at PCA, just very disappointed and surprised about the inflexibility. In my years of attending shows, seminars and organizing annual trade shows and social events I have never encountered this level of inflexibility.

I could be wrong but I think that each Parade has a limited number of entries available, determined in advance by the facilities that they have available for the event. When the event is full, they close the registration process. I think they tell you that before the registration opens.

I'm sorry that you couldn't get in, but I think it's more to do with the unfortunate timing of your entry, than any unwillingness on the part of the people that are working the event. Maybe the lady you talked to didn't explain the situation as well as she could have.

I'd keep checking back, or put out feelers on the PCA website (or Pelican, etc.) to pick up an entry slot in the event someone has to cancel their attendance. I've registered for a parade before and been unable to attend at the last minute, so I know it happens.

JR

stealthn 06-28-2012 06:24 AM

Rrental,

You saw the note from Manny here to contact him; he's on the board so do it.

As well jump over to the Canada forum there are drives posted there all the time, most near you. Drive with a bunch of us and some of our northern US friends and you'll have the same amount of fun with your son as you would with the PCA events

Bob James

Drisump 06-28-2012 06:35 AM

Well just two weeks ago thirty Porsches were overnighting in Sun Peaks doing the annual Can-Am tour.....it was a blast and you would've been very welcome. There are many opportunities to exercise your P-car with the Pelican group but unfortunately, the last of the spring session was this last weekend in the Kooteneys. The summer has few "spirited tours" because the roads get clogged with RV's making it very difficult for a group to stay roughly together. I actually haven't attended the annual Parade but have attended the amazing Rennsport event in Laguna Seca. I don't know what your interests are in owning the car but there are quite a few track day events offered to PCA members. When I first got my car, I took the "drivers skills" course (offered by the Pacific NW PCA) in Bremmerton Washington. This course was a lot of fun and gives you an opportunity to push your car (and yourself) to levels highly illegal on public roads. Have fun with your Porsche, there are lots of opportunities.

GH85Carrera 06-28-2012 06:40 AM

Contact Manny, has has stroke. :)

I will be going. It is a fun event. But the logistics and planning is a HUGE undertaking. They wait until there is no more time to plan, then cut off registration. Way back in 1996 the Oklahoma region hosted Parade. I was the registrar. Back when the internet did not exist. On opening day a man was brought over to meet me. He was in the Army and had just returned to country the day before. He wanted to participate. I did not see a problem with one more. I signed the man up on the spot. Some of the national PCA weenies had a fit and said that was not allowed. I pointed to my name tag and said yes it is. The man is registered. Our event was much smaller than the Parades of today. Now national runs the entire event.

Every person you are likely see at that event working is a Volunteer . There is only one paid person there and it is full time job at PCA to run the club at the direction of the board of directors, who are all Volunteers.

89911 06-28-2012 08:43 AM

Ah to remember back when I was so obsessed with Porsche its lucky I didn't get a tattoo. In 5 years from now,(if you still own your car), you will look back and think what all the concern was about. It REALLY isn't that big of a deal. Having been a PCA member since owning my car for 14 years, I find the people that are still involved with it with a fury must have not much else going on with their lives. I don't mean that in a bad way, just the passion for me was there for a few years and now, its just about me liking my car. Enjoy your new ride now and don't worry about the parade.

stomachmonkey 06-28-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 6827952)
Contact Manny, has has stroke. :)

I will be going. It is a fun event. But the logistics and planning is a HUGE undertaking. They wait until there is no more time to plan, then cut off registration. Way back in 1996 the Oklahoma region hosted Parade. I was the registrar. Back when the internet did not exist. On opening day a man was brought over to meet me. He was in the Army and had just returned to country the day before. He wanted to participate. I did not see a problem with one more. I signed the man up on the spot. Some of the national PCA weenies had a fit and said that was not allowed. I pointed to my name tag and said yes it is. The man is registered. Our event was much smaller than the Parades of today. Now national runs the entire event.

Every person you are likely see at that event working is a Volunteer . There is only one paid person there and it is full time job at PCA to run the club at the direction of the board of directors, who are all Volunteers.

Moved here to TX and had the 190SL out for a romp one day, had the wife and kids with me.

Pass a local American Iron hot rod show so we pull in. Volunteer comes over and says it's a $25 fee day of event. Said I was just passing by, not looking to show but would appreciate tips on a safe place to leave the Benz for an hour while the kids and I walk the show.

He looks at the car, looks at me, says "we'd love to have this thing as part of the event for as long as you are here" moves the cones and waves us in.

That's car culture.

nynor 06-28-2012 08:59 AM

+1 on just going. stay for a couple of days. i can point you in the direction for good food, beer, drives, whatever you fancy. there will concours (i am sure) and track events, etc. i can also point you in the direction of some good canyon drives. your son can have a blast and get away from canada for a couple of days.

widgeon13 06-28-2012 09:17 AM

I go to a PCA event about every three years, just long enough to forget the bad experience from the previous visit. Other than track days I can't stand PCA meetings, people are just too stuffy and clicky.

cairns 06-28-2012 11:29 AM

If you talked to a sweet girl at the PCA office I think her name is Michelle. She helped me renew my membership a few weeks ago and she IS AWESOME.

TAKE NOTE MANNY ALBAN- she is a SUPERB ambassador.

PCA is what you make of it- people join cliques everywhere. Screw 'em start your own. Althouigh I can't speak for other regions mine is fantastic- some of the best people I've ever met- and we go out of our way to make new members feel welcome.

And just so everyone understands i'm not trying to be rebecca of sunny brook farms Panorama still sucks. Keep the magazine and give the money to Michelle.

Manny Alban 06-28-2012 11:42 AM

Didn't you read my President's Message ?? :)

Panorama is getting a new editor January 2013. Can't predict if you'll think it still sucks, but, it will be the start of new era.

cairns 06-28-2012 11:58 AM

That is WONDERFUL NEWS Manny. I'm sorry I didn't see it- my membership lapsed so I didn't get it.

Is her name Michelle BTW? She really is that good.

scottmandue 06-28-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 6828217)
Moved here to TX and had the 190SL out for a romp one day, had the wife and kids with me.

Pass a local American Iron hot rod show so we pull in. Volunteer comes over and says it's a $25 fee day of event. Said I was just passing by, not looking to show but would appreciate tips on a safe place to leave the Benz for an hour while the kids and I walk the show.

He looks at the car, looks at me, says "we'd love to have this thing as part of the event for as long as you are here" moves the cones and waves us in.

That's car culture.

I went to the German Autofest in Ventura a few years back... a little concerned my 944 would get dissed so didn't sign up for anything. Got there just as the gates opened because I wanted to have time to see everything. I tried to use the parking lot but the guys kept waving my on and pointed to a spot inside the event on the grass for me to park. :eek:

That and as I pulled into the hotel and parked two guys ran up and started drolling...

Hmmm... maybe I shouldn't sell it after all.

Oh, and I bought an oil filter from (I think) Wayne at the PP booth!

Manny Alban 06-28-2012 12:21 PM

I like to think our entire paid staff, 9 people, are phenomenal. They love the members and put customer service as priority #1. 7 of them work at the HQ in Columbia, MD (and, no, I don't have an office there). Because of them, I can be President and still hold a real paying job. And yes, Michelle is one of the staff at HQ. I'll pass along your kind words.

More amazing is the volunteer national staff numbers 144 people. Probably explains why our annual membership fee is only $46.

techweenie 06-28-2012 12:30 PM

I was a PCA member for 27 years. Even co-founded a Region. PCA is like any other club -- 80% lurkers and 20% participants. A couple of times, my schedule was uncertain so I didn't sign up for the Parade and then just "dropped in." It was plenty of fun just being there among the awesome cars. I recommend it to anyone who isn't able to register to attend.

Racerbvd 06-28-2012 05:04 PM

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I would say I am 20 years younger than your average PCA member. I'm 37.

I joined when I was 22... And was very active on the board the 1st 20+ years..

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Originally Posted by Manny Alban (Post 6827420)
RRental, drop me an email at carrerados@aol.com I'll see what I can do. It's going to be a great event.

Unlike what some members on this forum may feel, PCA is the best car club in the world. 107K members can't be wrong.

btw, I drive a 1973 914 :)

This isn't a 914??http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1340928266.jpg

Paul K 06-28-2012 05:22 PM

Is the 930 you bought in Boise blue with twist rims?

I saw it when it came in to LP if so.

Baz 06-28-2012 07:45 PM

Nice Manny - always have been impressed with your involvement. It's what the club needs (more posts on PP off-topics!)

Keep up the great work,
Bazza :)

strupgolf 06-28-2012 08:43 PM

Just go there and have fun walikng around. Heck with registering for anything. That's what I woul do.

rrental 06-28-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 6829224)
Is the 930 you bought in Boise blue with twist rims?

I saw it when it came in to LP if so.

Yes it is! Excuse my ignorance, but where/what is LP..?

URY914 06-29-2012 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 6827173)
This website has replaced PCA. They just don't know it.

Like I said before.

Paul K 06-29-2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rrental (Post 6829703)
Yes it is! Excuse my ignorance, but where/what is LP..?

LP=Lyle Pearson. Porsche (& Land Rover, Mercedes, Acura & Volvo) dealership in Boise.

I saw your car when they first got it & I was looking for an SC- local trade, I believe.

Laneco 06-29-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny Alban (Post 6828681)
I like to think our entire paid staff, 9 people, are phenomenal. They love the members and put customer service as priority #1. 7 of them work at the HQ in Columbia, MD (and, no, I don't have an office there). Because of them, I can be President and still hold a real paying job. And yes, Michelle is one of the staff at HQ. I'll pass along your kind words.

More amazing is the volunteer national staff numbers 144 people. Probably explains why our annual membership fee is only $46.

Is Vu Nguyen still there? I met him years ago when I was inspecting commercial trucks... Then again when I decided to join PCA. Odd to meet someone twice in two such different areas...

angela

targa911S 06-29-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scottmandue (Post 6826973)
+1 on just go and enjoy the event... scope it out and see if you want to go to the next one.

I would think a 930 would draw a lot of friendly attention, I bet you will have a good time.

yep...what he said..have fun. Don't go to local meetings.....(yawn)....

Manny Alban 06-29-2012 05:24 PM

Angela-yes, Vu is still the PCA Executive Director. Great guy who manages the national office. He figured out something I didn't-how to get paid doing Porsche and PCA stuff :)

JJ 911SC 06-29-2012 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny Alban (Post 6831017)
Angela-yes, Vu is still the PCA Executive Director. Great guy who manages the national office. He figured out something I didn't-how to get paid doing Porsche and PCA stuff :)

Vu is my region rep... I'll give him my support if he decide to go for the Grand Pupa job :D:):D

Join the PCA so I could participate in our local coffee Run.

Did talk to the head office a few times and they are really customer oriented.

Looking forward for changes under new management :):D:)

Manny Alban 06-29-2012 05:44 PM

Don't thnk Vu's wife would be too happy if he went for the Grand Pupa job :) PCA President is volunteer. Volunteer=long hours, no pay :) . Vu's a paid employee of PCA.

JJ 911SC 06-29-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny Alban (Post 6831068)
... President is volunteer. Volunteer=long hours, no pay :) ...

BTDT but someone has to do it... Good for you, and us http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gif

rrental 06-29-2012 10:19 PM

Update....
 
I have been in contact with the PCA last week and we can put this issue at rest.

I do realize PCA and in this case the parade is the hard work of many volunteers and this close to the date changes are hard to accommodate. One thing I learned during our conversations this week is that apparently the deadline was already extended due to a later start of the registration.

I sincerely apologize to the many hard working PCA volunteers if my original post was a bit harsh towards the PCA.

Thank you Manny for helping resolving this issue!

rrental 06-29-2012 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul K (Post 6830929)
LP=Lyle Pearson. Porsche (& Land Rover, Mercedes, Acura & Volvo) dealership in Boise.

I saw your car when they first got it & I was looking for an SC- local trade, I believe.

Ahh ok.. Yes it was a local trade. I think the original owner traded it on a Cayman.

mossguy 06-29-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rrental (Post 6831485)
I have been in contact with the PCA last week and we can put this issue at rest.

I do realize PCA and in this case the parade is the hard work of many volunteers and this close to the date changes are hard to accommodate. One thing I learned during our conversations this week is that apparently the deadline was already extended due to a later start of the registration.

I sincerely apologize to the many hard working PCA volunteers if my original post was a bit harsh towards the PCA.

Thank you Manny for helping resolving this issue!

A nice resolution! Good for you!


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