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H.G.P. 07-19-2012 10:04 AM

Modem problem
 
Computer > Modem > Phone line

1. 13 year old computer

2. Windows 98 (not 98 SE)

3. Internal modem

4. Dial-up

Problem: 1. have to connect and reconnect the phone connector at the back of the computer to get the modem to operate. 2. Causes phone line to go dead all house phones, until having to connect and reconnect the line at the modem.

Computer says the modem "is operating correctly"

Connection speed has also slowed.

MysticLlama 07-19-2012 10:18 AM

Modem probably has a short open condition.

This used to happen with some cheap brands when you used a 4 wire cord instead of a 2 wire cord. Look at the connector and try to find a 2 conductor one around if it's got 4.

And then throw that old thing away...

flipper35 07-19-2012 10:22 AM

I have a couple at the house if it's gone bad and you need one. Was going to toss them when I got around to it.

red-beard 07-19-2012 12:00 PM

Time to spend $300 on a laptop!

Laptops, Cell Phones, Video Games, Cameras, Computers - CowBoom.com

svandamme 07-19-2012 12:12 PM

could be anything from modem problem to motherboard problem.. something is surging on yer phone lines.. toss the modem, go to shop, get a new one.. oh wait.. never mind..

Seriously, still using an actual modem?? Guess ad popups must really ruin an internet session when they go off, no?

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 12:50 PM

After reconnecting (undo-redo at the connection on the back of the computer) about 3 times, I'm back.

1. When I turn this computer on, all the phone lines go "air" (dead)

2. I then connect and reconnect (about 3-4 times)at the phone connector at said computer, and then can go online.

3. All the computer stores here no longer carry a modem for a W98.

4. I'm looking at some new Win 7 models. however:

I need my old office 95 to be able to load onto the new 7 models (and photos), is that possible.....are they going to hook me for a new office?

Thanks for the replies.

John Rogers 07-19-2012 02:51 PM

Your last question can be answered by looking at the first post. As old as everything is a complete replacement of all the applications will probably be required. The exception would be to run something like Oracle's Virtual Box on top of Windows 7 and then load 98 on top of that. Since it is so old I doubt it can use a thumb drive which could be used to transfer all the pictures, spreadsheets or documents. There are some free file transfer software packages that allow you to connect the old PC to a new one and transfer what you want to where you want on the new PC.

As for the files, the new office/paint/graphics software can easily convert and read all the things you have now so no worries there.

If you get a new PC I would suggest upgrading you internet service provider so you do not have a dial-up connection, either DSL or cable are the way to go now. One thing you could have done years ago was to get a second telephone line and connect the modem to it so the home system does not drop off when in use. Anyways, good luck with moving into much faster computing.........

azasadny 07-19-2012 04:01 PM

Wow, throw that thing out and get a new PC... really...

masraum 07-19-2012 04:13 PM

Wow!

azasadny 07-19-2012 04:17 PM

Get a Dell that comes with Office. If you know a "computer person", they can move your files for you. If you lived near me, I'd do it for you... free...

red-beard 07-19-2012 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.G.P. (Post 6864773)
After reconnecting (undo-redo at the connection on the back of the computer) about 3 times, I'm back.

1. When I turn this computer on, all the phone lines go "air" (dead)

2. I then connect and reconnect (about 3-4 times)at the phone connector at said computer, and then can go online.

3. All the computer stores here no longer carry a modem for a W98.

4. I'm looking at some new Win 7 models. however:

I need my old office 95 to be able to load onto the new 7 models (and photos), is that possible.....are they going to hook me for a new office?

Thanks for the replies.

You can get a copy of Office 2003 from Amazon for under $100. They will load and run on Win 7. There are also other places which sell old copies of 2003. Google search for those. Don't go to a later version than 2003. At 2007, it changed, and in my opinion, not an improvement.

Seriously, you can get an older Win 7 laptop for ~$300 and then load Office for maybe another $100.

azasadny 07-19-2012 05:03 PM

My friend just gave me three old Dell laptops and I put 2GB or RAM in each ($22) and a new AC adapter ($20) and a new keypad ($11) and I bought Win7 for $80 and I'm loading up the 2nd one right now. You MUST get a "real" Internet connection (broadband) and NOT an analog modem (dial-up). If you don't get a decent Internet connection, don't bother getting a PC.

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azasadny (Post 6865133)
Wow, throw that thing out and get a new PC... really...

I have this Iomega Zip drive that I'm using to transfer onto. 100mg per disk. However, the stores around here don't carry the disks anymore. The flash sticks won't work on this W98 computer.

The wait is not too long on this dial-up. However, not much to compare.
I'll browse what's available.

It Lives. Thanks.

GH85Carrera 07-19-2012 05:33 PM

The old rule of thumb is dogs age at 7 year per year. I think computers age at 20 years per year. My computer is Windows XP and old. Your system is a relic from the Roman times.

Get something new.

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 05:37 PM

The Office I've had loaded on here since 1999.
Word is Word for Windows 95 and works fine. (Same with Powerpoint, XL etc., Schedule is 92-95), all 7.0 versions, and I'd like to load the entire 7.0 95 CD disks into the new computer.

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 05:44 PM

About 10-20 seconds to log onto internet sites, depending on the sites, with this dial-up.

island911 07-19-2012 05:45 PM

So, I take it that you run a History & Industry museum?

Jagshund 07-19-2012 07:26 PM

Remember when Wendy's used to use those old-timey newspaper ads on their tables? I think I saw your computer on there.

slodave 07-19-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H.G.P. (Post 6865287)
The Office I've had loaded on here since 1999.
Word is Word for Windows 95 and works fine. (Same with Powerpoint, XL etc., Schedule is 92-95), all 7.0 versions, and I'd like to load the entire 7.0 95 CD disks into the new computer.

What happens when someone sends you a file in the .docx extension? I can't believe that there's an extension pack from MS for Office 95. And a quick check shows you can't.

It's seriously time to move into the current decade.

Also, I just got rid (couple weeks ago) of about 8 modems that would have worked for you.

jperry 07-19-2012 07:41 PM

Wait... there are still dial-up ISPs??!!

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 09:07 PM

Well, there alot of old tractors and lawnmowers that still get "the job" done. I'm not after a 100 acre fast mow job, and my life-time does not revolve around a computer. (My now 43 old 911 was my daily driver just several years ago.)

However, I appreciate the imput, and will keep options open. I did look at some new towers and laptops today, but the "deluxe edition" software installed on those, seemed like advertisment.

slodave 07-19-2012 09:20 PM

But with the old tractors and lawnmowers, you can usually find parts. As you are finding out, there are no parts for Win 98 anymore.

BTW, MS Office has a free version these days. If you only do basic word processing or spreadsheets, it works fine. There is an ad in the lower right corner, but those that I know using the free version don't complain about the ad.

slodave 07-19-2012 09:23 PM

I just dug up 3 more pci modems. If you want them, PM and address and I'll mail them to you. I have no idea if they work (I suppose they do) and I don't have drivers for them.

slodave 07-19-2012 09:26 PM

I also found a couple zip disks and may have one or two more modems lying around. I had terrible luck with zip disks, kept ending up with CRC errors and useless disks. You can these two as well, I just have no idea if they work. If they do and there's porn on them, it's not mine! :D

futuresoptions 07-19-2012 09:34 PM

John Titor will probably be contacting you verrrry soooon....

H.G.P. 07-19-2012 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slodave (Post 6865613)
I just dug up 3 more pci modems. If you want them, PM and address and I'll mail them to you. I have no idea if they work (I suppose they do) and I don't have drivers for them.


Years ago I had a bought new e-machine with XP and it crashed around 3 yrs or so, and this old tractor has out lasted it by years. The longevity makes me wonder where the parts were made.

This computer has disk capacity of 4GB. and I have around 20 x 100mg. of zip disks. So I'm ok as long as the Zip Drive keeps working.

Quirky, but i'm still able online so far.

slodave 07-19-2012 10:00 PM

Older equipment was made better. No change in where things are made.

dennis in se pa 07-20-2012 03:14 AM

As far as "Office" is concerned I hope you all know about "Open Office" the free software from Oracle/Sun Micro Systems. Does everything Microsoft does.

island911 07-20-2012 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennis in se pa (Post 6865793)
As far as "Office" is concerned I hope you all know about "Open Office" the free software from Oracle/Sun Micro Systems. Does everything Microsoft does.

Maybe everything that a decade old version of MS Office did.

Every time that I look at Open Office I find it inadequate.


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