Antanov 124

[mikeesik]

Funny the Americans rely on others to feed their and other b.s hosts on the space station. Which is monetarily so f'd up that the public won't or doesn't know how much it actually costs them.

Just thank the Russians that they can keep the space station alive.
Of course with American technology.

[john70t]

Il-2 "flying tank" (did the Frogfoot predate the Harrier or A-10?).
Sputnik and Laika the dog.
Hind versatility.
Mig-29 cobra maneuver and top vacuum.

Probably a few others. All is on the shoulders of giants.

[Jeff Alton]

I remember way back when Ford SUV's were flipping on their lids and decided to blame the tires. We were seeing a AN 124 every few days here loaded only with replacement bridgestone/firestone tires for the North American Marktet. Went on for a few months before enough were here to settle the issue with the NHSTA and the like..... Extremely poor performing aircraft ( initial climb/speed), even when empty.... Makes an airbus 340 look like a peformer!

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

Yeah right!!
R-7 Rocket.
Mig -25.
....this is just a miniscule start here.

The U.S was always independent inventing and fabricating tech. Jet Engines, Rocket Engines-Internal Combustion-steam.......

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Ahh, sure not in the jet engine areas...

The Brits during the early part of WW2 send a copy of the Whittle Jet engine (Power Jets) to GE in America. They realized that they could not push ahead and make as many engines as needed for the war effort yet America could. At this time America had NO jet engines on the drawing board so this was a huge leap in technology for the Americans.

As well the Germans were light years ahead of the Americans in this field. Only by being hampered by a lack of high temp metals kept them from being far ahead of both the Brits and everyone else in the war.

Frank Whittle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Joeaksa]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

Funny the Americans rely on others to feed their and other b.s hosts on the space station. Which is monetarily so f'd up that the public won't or doesn't know how much it actually costs them.

Just thank the Russians that they can keep the space station alive.
Of course with American technology.

So sad to see that the Americans are now relying on Russia and others to get things into space. Such a short sighted program... hopefully it will eventually change. IMHO the Shuttle should never have been taken out of use until a replacement had been "waiting in the wings" and ready to fly.

[beepbeep]

Originally Posted by mikeesik

Yeah right!!
R-7 Rocket.
Mig -25.
....this is just a miniscule start here.

The U.S was always independent inventing and fabricating tech. Jet Engines, Rocket Engines-Internal Combustion-steam.......

-

That's why I wrote "jet engine". IMHO, Russkies are best in the world when it comes to medium-powered rocket engines. RD-180 was even to be copied by US but it never happened. But they never made anything near F-1.

That being said, jet engine business (and we are talking hi-bypass turbofans) is so cut-throat competitive and expensive that it just copying old designs doesn't cut it (SIC).

MIG-25 engines (Tumasky R-15) were typical if Russian philosophy. They were unsophisticated straight turbojets, made big enough to propel MiG-25 at high speed for a very short time. Very thirsty, very heavy and with short lifespan.


Cred where cred is due. Russkies make very good hardware. But they aren't good when it comes to engines.

[mikeesik]

Originally Posted by Joeaksa

Ahh, sure not in the jet engine areas...

The Brits during the early part of WW2 send a copy of the Whittle Jet engine (Power Jets) to GE in America. They realized that they could not push ahead and make as many engines as needed for the war effort yet America could. At this time America had NO jet engines on the drawing board so this was a huge leap in technology for the Americans.

As well the Germans were light years ahead of the Americans in this field. Only by being hampered by a lack of high temp metals kept them from being far ahead of both the Brits and everyone else in the war.

Frank Whittle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't forget also that right after ww2 boxcar loads of ME 262 Engines just as V2 engines were taken to the U.S

Please.
Don't get me wrong, I am very proud for the U.S accomplishments.-very.

[Joeaksa]

Not to mention V1 and V2 rocket's and components as well. They were the basis of our "space program" for the next 10 years or so and we simply built upon their technology from there on out.

[mikeesik]

I guess it all just depends on what one farmer would do with a load of dirt as opposed to another.