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flipper35 08-16-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dienstuhr (Post 6915899)
Always enjoy reading Mr Uno's posts as well.

I have wondered, though, if there are documented actual occurrences of a CCW licensee actually preventing or stopping a gun crime or other crime in progress, due to being armed. The main argument for CCW seems to be "armed citizens will stop crimes as they occur" and I wonder if there is evidence that this happens.

Thanks,

d.

American Rifleman has several of these documented each month. OK, some are gun owning homeowners but a lot are CCW rescues as well.

jyl 08-16-2012 06:07 AM

Kind of embarrassing for other gun owners to read.

ronster 08-16-2012 06:07 AM

Sounds like someone didn't get their nappy-poo.

dewolf 08-16-2012 06:08 AM

That video could have gone down a whole lot worse if that kid started shooting. Not sure if I was in that situation if I'd want anyone to start shooting. The other people in that cafe had their lives thrust into the hands of the old gunman. They were involved in a gunfight whether they wanted to be or not.

Jim Richards 08-16-2012 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 6915987)
just some crossfire..you got caught in some crossfire..i think

I eventually figured out that was really an anatomical reference. The coffee is not strong enough this AM. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo.../coffeecup.gif

vash 08-16-2012 06:12 AM

i friggen love firearms.

.i dont wear it like a badge on my chest. i just quietly do my thing. part of it is training from living where i live. stay under the radar.

same goes for hunting. i'm a lousy but proud hunter. but i wont drive down the road with a dead thing hanging out of my truck..under the radar.

my buddies mom (sage korean lady) once said, (picture very thick accent) "a jar full of pennies makes more noise than a jar full of dollar bills" this applys for a myriad of situations...like this one.

vash 08-16-2012 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 6916002)
I eventually figured out that was really an anatomical reference. The coffee is not strong enough this AM. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo.../coffeecup.gif

oh yea!! you know, parents may never reinstate the name "Dick" as a popular boys name.

i guess i need more coffee too!

dienstuhr 08-16-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rot 911 (Post 6915976)
just last month:

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aarp ftw.

Dottore 08-16-2012 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dienstuhr (Post 6915899)
Always enjoy reading Mr Uno's posts as well.

I have wondered, though, if there are documented actual occurrences of a CCW licensee actually preventing or stopping a gun crime or other crime in progress, due to being armed. The main argument for CCW seems to be "armed citizens will stop crimes as they occur" and I wonder if there is evidence that this happens.

Thanks,

d.

The incidence of this happening is so tiny that it absolutley does not feature when compared to the total incidence of gun crime.

However the gun fetishists constantly use this argument because it really is all they got - apart from bluff and bluster and bombast and macho swagger. (see OP)

dtw 08-16-2012 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 6916003)
i friggen love firearms.

.i dont wear it like a badge on my chest. i just quietly do my thing.

This.

widebody911 08-16-2012 06:38 AM

I dont start the crap..........i just finish it!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1345127896.jpg

Jeff Higgins 08-16-2012 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6915994)
That video could have gone down a whole lot worse if that kid started shooting.

Since he was there to rob the place, and brandishing a gun, one must assume he was prepared to do so.

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Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6915994)
Not sure if I was in that situation if I'd want anyone to start shooting.

I am absolutely certain if I were in that situation, I would very much prefer no one started shooting.

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Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6915994)
The other people in that cafe had their lives thrust into the hands of the old gunman.

Yes, they did. Prior to that, their lives were in the hands of the armed criminals who sought to rob them (and who knows what else). Either way, their lives were in someone else's hands, and that someone was not of their choosing. The first party that took control of their lives were the criminals. The second party to take control of their lives was the old man. I think it was fairly obvious whose hands were the most likely to prove best for them.

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Originally Posted by dewolf (Post 6915994)
They were involved in a gunfight whether they wanted to be or not.

That is the nature of being a victim. No one chooses to be robbed, assaulted, or murdered. A criminal has, by definition, chosen someone who would rather not participate in his chosen activity of the moment. There could have been a "gunfight", albeit a very one-sided one, even in the absence of the old man.

Of coures I guess you could always ask (very politely) that the young men bring their robbery and/or gunfight elswhere, since you really didn't want to be a part of it.

nostatic 08-16-2012 06:55 AM

no, I finish crap. Thread closed. And don't start another one like this. The other threads were closed for a reason. If you can't figure out why, they you should find some other waterin' hole.


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