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exitwound 08-26-2012 07:40 AM

Been soaking the joint for a while now. I'll let you know how it turns out. I hope it's as simple as that.

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Wow, that aint bad. Thanks.
If you like Savage Circus, you might enjoy Persuader. Same lead singer but much much heavy and not as fast. Persuader - Twisted Eyes - YouTube

Bob Kontak 08-26-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by exitwound (Post 6935909)
Been soaking the joint for a while now. I'll let you know how it turns out. I hope it's as simple as that.

What you said about feeling more broken than seized has me hoping for the best but expecting something less. Hope it works.

exitwound 08-26-2012 02:59 PM

After a bunch of soaking, I attempted to play with the joint and while the X-axis is exceptionally smooth now, the y-axis was still tight. But moving it a few times broke something loose, and it moves now. It's still not smooth, and certainly not free, but I can move it in both axes much more easily than I could before.

Rick V 08-26-2012 03:26 PM

So we won't be adding a rubber mallet to your arsenal? What would Neil Pert say about that?

M.D. Holloway 08-26-2012 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 6933288)
The first thing I'd suspect is bad grease.
Every_single_thing produced these days seem to be made with bad grease.

The second thing I'd suspect is bad bearing clearances and/or procedures during a rebuild.

That thing looks brand spanking new all around.
There's no reason for premature failure.


Truer words yet to be spoken!

exitwound 08-26-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick V (Post 6936643)
So we won't be adding a rubber mallet to your arsenal? What would Neil Pert say about that?

You, sir, have just opened my eyes to a whole new universe of playing! :eek:

The part is over 7 years old, though. Although it looks new, it probably has thousands and thousands of rotations.

cashflyer 08-27-2012 05:08 AM

From the one pic, it looks like a dry joint with press-pin construction. IE: no grease, no bearings. What are the measurements on the joint?

I would press out the pins, check for galling, polish each part as necessary and replace pins if necessary, press back together and truck on.

I wouldn't try to re-engineer it. By time you buy a joint and have it welded on, you would have spend half the price of just buying a new kick. Hell, a Yamaha DFP-9500 is only about $400 complete. A Taye 602 or Gibralter is half that.

LWJ 08-27-2012 05:28 AM

What Cashflyer said.

Also. The U joint has three pieces from what I see.

Two rods. And a center joint piece.

I think it is a galling issue.

If the lube doesn't work - and I suspect it won't. You can replace the rods easily. McMaster Carr will have stock to buy for cheap if your hardware store doesn't.

The issue is if the center piece is destroyed you could make a new one with some steel stock a hacksaw and a drill. Better yet might be to drill out the holes slightly and move to larger diameter rod. Then you just need to peen over the ends. You might even just bend the rods on the ends? Easier than peening.

Last thought is lots of grease!

Good luck. This is not difficult to fix. It will just take some effort.

Larry

kaisen 08-27-2012 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 6934479)
Help an old guy out: what kind of drugs would I have to consume in order to enjoy that?

Youth

No drug will get it back for you

kaisen 08-27-2012 06:13 AM

Mark, here's a little more proof that you might be a little out of touch

8.1 million You Tube views (this version).....and this is just a simple impromptu, unproduced drum solo

Joey Jordison of Slipknot, fairly local to me, really nice guy

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Over 15 million views (all versions), just a gimmicky solo, but at ~2:10 you can see just how fast he can move the bass drums

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LSA 08-27-2012 10:23 AM

Nice set. Check craigslist if your peddle is beyond repair my buddy got a near new dw 3000 (i think) for under 100

Savage Circus is pretty cool, love Iron Savior though their new album kicked ass Gamma ray is indeed awesome.

I don't know how you drummers do that brutal double bass peddling it's like running a marathon lol

exitwound 08-27-2012 05:50 PM

Thanks for all of the help guys. I'll let you know how things ultimately progress.

It *is* a workout. It looks simple and effortless but it's quite exhausting. Nothing like your heart pounding to the beat of a double kick :)

wdfifteen 08-27-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by exitwound (Post 6934443)
The seizing started during verse 1 of "All Nightmare Long" by Metallica, and by the chorus it had stopped moving. It was like thirty seconds of playing between working properly and stuck, not a long term slowing down. That's why I'm confused.

'Cause you were playing Metallica? Some of the kids who worked for me listened to that stuff. They seemed confused about everything .

exitwound 08-28-2012 02:02 PM

Yeah not much by Lars is difficult to play. But I was in an odd mood that night. Maybe the drums were fighting back and revolted.

widebody911 08-30-2012 04:45 AM

Drummers are about to become obsolete.

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exitwound 08-30-2012 01:57 PM

That was sweet. I'd like to see less guitar hero -esque timing and some more spikes and leather.

Oh Haha 08-30-2012 03:10 PM

Pffft..Stupid robot. Didn't even end the song right.:rolleyes:























They said we would become obsolete in the 80's too.SmileWavy

widebody911 08-30-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oh Haha (Post 6945690)
Pffft..Stupid robot. Didn't even end the song right.:rolleyes:

Yeah, but I'll bet this one's sober and not living in the dumpster outside his ex-girlfriend's apartment.

Oh Haha 08-30-2012 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6945736)
Yeah, but I'll bet this one's sober and not living in the dumpster outside his ex-girlfriend's apartment.

Touche

Nostril Cheese 08-30-2012 06:19 PM

This is f**king weak. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 6944391)
Drummers are about to become obsolete.

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