Zero to sixty in 3.9 seconds, 1/4 mile in 12.5 seconds, and 100 eMPG.....

[island911]

Originally Posted by kaisen

That slow, not-so-great-fuel-economy diesel Panapiggy you linked is well over $100K as well. Luxury costs money. ...

Absolutely. But that's one of the problems with the Tesla. It's over 100k, and, as your linked article points out, it's not all that comfortable.

[SeanPizzle]

Back when Prii were issued HOV stickers, most of my IT salesguy peers bought one. Not because it was green, but because it bought them an extra hour or two per day. $300K per annum/2080 hours=$144 an hour=$1440 per week extra time=$74K per year of more productivity. If it can seat customers comfortably and get 280 miles per charge and run a 12 second quarter mile, I see this taking off. I would assume a 650-750 per month lease payment and fuel savings alone would pay at least half that.

Moreover, I would consider getting one to help give the company momentum. In 2018, imagine how far they will have come with iterative improvements.

[Flieger]

If everyone gets HOV lane access without having HO then you are right back to where you started...

[SeanPizzle]

Originally Posted by Flieger

If everyone gets HOV lane access without having HO then you are right back to where you started...

one of the few benefits of the Collectivists' social engineering. Not everyone. In fact Hybrids can't use the HOV lane with their stickers, only Zero emissions.

[Jim Richards]

Well, that's at least a small victory for the Reactionaries.

[wdfifteen]

Originally Posted by tevake

Very interesting details, Eric. I'm sure the rebuttle is coming soon.
I do find it courios that the focus in developing these electric cars is now on the luxury ( heavy) segment of the market.

That's where the money is. I've always thought that's where they should go with it. The first gasoline cars were expensive toys for the rich.

[kaisen]

In deep with Tesla CEO Elon Musk: Financials, Falcon doors and finding faults in the Model S

Long article/interview, but a very interesting glimpse into Tesla's future and culture

[kaisen]

MT Then and Now: Tesla Roadster, Model S, Model X Prototype - WOT on Motor Trend

[island911]

Originally Posted by Flieger

If everyone gets HOV lane access without having HO then you are right back to where you started...

?

You mean other than having that extra capacity?

I mean, on a 5 lane freeway the HOV is sucking up 20%. Adding one lane to 4 is a 25% increase in capacity.

Back to the electrics.... They get:
a $7,500 credit (free money)
a sales tax waiver (here that's ~$10k on the Tesla S of this thread)
They pay no gas tax (again, that's high on the left coast)
AND, they get their very own express lane?

Just how many freebies need to be thrown at these things to make them popular?

Oh, I forgot about the half a Billion that both/each Tesla and Fisker received in guaranteed govt loans.

This is what is called a Technology PUSH.

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by island911

This is what is called a Technology PUSH.

Yep, exactly.

[Jim Richards]

Toyota Prius propels to top three in global car sales | Digital Trends

[kaisen]

Originally Posted by jim richards

toyota prius propels to top three in global car sales | digital trends

since the introduction of prius in japan in 1997, toyota has sold 4 million hybrid-electric vehicles worldwide, including 1.5 million in the united states.

Read more: Toyota Prius propels to top three in global car sales | Digital Trends

ymfmmv

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by island911

?

You mean other than having that extra capacity?

I mean, on a 5 lane freeway the HOV is sucking up 20%. Adding one lane to 4 is a 25% increase in capacity.

That's all good in theory but there are often cases where 25% more capacity doesn't help. And where the carpool lane stops just like everyone else. Welcome to elay.

The biggest problem is slow drivers in the carpool lane. If you get stuck behind one you have to wait miles to legally get out from behind them and use the normal lanes to pass.

[Flieger]

Originally Posted by kaisen

in deep with tesla ceo elon musk: Financials, falcon doors and finding faults in the model s

long article/interview, but a very interesting glimpse into tesla's future and culture

lol!!!!!

Originally Posted by elon musk

well, i don't want to get suppliers mad at me, but some of them are some pretty big name suppliers and you think, "how the heck can this big-name supplier not get their s*** together?" and i call the ceo and he's like, "i promise i'll get my s*** together," and i'm like, "your s*** is not together." it's quite vexing.

[john70t]

Originally Posted by island911

?
This is what is called a Technology PUSH.

You're totally wrong, but I'll have to agree with you

[kaisen]

[island911]

So, Mr Tajima doesn't want to buy one.

I saw my first Tesla S on the road today. It appeared to have regular plates (not dealer plates). --a delivered vehicle!?

Congrats to Tesla on getting this far, this fast. That car moved beautify thru traffic. ..even if it was Sunday traffic.

[JavaBrewer]

Originally Posted by kaisen

In this class, $70K doesn't buy as much as you'd think. Heck, my neighbor's new SL65 AMG was just a tad under $300K and another's F350 was over $60K....for a pickup!

How the hell do people afford these sorts of vehicles these days? I mean how many CEOs with no children or wives are there in the world?

I'm doing very well and still think $25K for a vehicle is huge bank. Now get off my lawn...

[jhc]

After reading the NY Times review today I made a reservation for a Model S online. Then I decided to go to their showroom to look at the display model. It's big and very roomy if a bit utilitarian inside compared to other cars in its price range. The 300 mile range and the ability to fill up at home is very tempting, the 17" vertical touchscreen display is a little disconcerting. Unfortunately you have to make an appointment for the test drive so I can't speak to its driveability. I think the Model X (gull wing SUV) might be more in line with what I want. They are talking a six month wait for the Model S and 2014 for the Model X,

[kaisen]

Spoiler, the Tesla is faster than the M5