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85eurocarrera 09-16-2012 07:12 AM

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Zeke 09-16-2012 07:12 AM

A freaking Spandex convention. And look at those bright yellow shoes in front.

Maybe it was a clown convention featuring bikes. Lots of bikes in the circus.

85eurocarrera 09-16-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6979117)
A freaking Spandex convention.

The women wear Spandex too!:p

Plenty of opportunity to sit up and enjoy the view. IMO, women cyclists are just about as good as it gets. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...eys/face80.gif

Joe Bob 09-16-2012 08:45 AM

Who the hell is Richard?

DanielDudley 09-16-2012 09:27 AM

Richard Head ?

mossguy 09-16-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6977090)
BBWs.....nah.....Mongo like skinny minnies....

Going to a engagement soiree en la manana.... working on the tux or shorts and flip flops.....

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1347688135.jpg


For an old grumpus, you clean up pretty well, Mike. ;)

Zeke 09-16-2012 01:55 PM

Stay thirsty, my friends.

afterburn 549 09-16-2012 01:55 PM

Little bit of Lee Marvin there!

aigel 09-16-2012 08:32 PM

I would report all the "how am I driving" fools. That said, as mentioned above by others, it is not going to change the situation: I don't know how and why you would submit yourself to grave danger of city traffic. Especially today when everyone is extremely distracted and swerving lanes while using their smart phones. It only takes a split second of someone not paying attention and you are dead or seriously injured. If you don't worry about being dead, that's fine, but you may be seriously effed up, where you'd really wish you would be dead.

I almost lost a close family member to a city bike accident long time ago and the effects last to this day. Ever since, I am spooked to ride on the street. I only MTB on roads closed to traffic. If forced to ride in town, I only take sidewalks - nobody walks in L.A., so it is easy - if there is foot traffic, I get out of their way or stop for them to pas.

The other day I wanted to do a big loop over the local hillside and had to take a country road without any space for biking to get there. 5 miles of high pucker factor for me even at 6 am. I won't do that again. Next time I drove my car there and picked it up later.

G

mikesride 09-17-2012 02:18 PM

Roads are for cars..... I ride a bike for recreation now and then (3 -4 times per week), always on a bike path or a trail. Anybody who drives a bike on main drags during the morning and afternoon peak times is plain stupid. (not calling anybody stupid, but really......just think about it!)....I often do ride the bike on the street (5 - 6 residential blocks) to get to the bike path, I give each and every motorized vehicle the widest berth.

enzo1 09-17-2012 05:52 PM

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Nostril Cheese 09-17-2012 06:24 PM

Yet again today, I had some uber-elitist douche in head to toe spandex come out of NOWHERE from behind me ON THE LEFT, smack my car with his fist while im driving 20MPH in traffic and yell "My LANE, ***hole"

jyl 09-17-2012 06:44 PM

In a previous thread, I showed you guys the fatality data. Riding a bicycle is far safer than riding a motorcycle. It is only moderately more dangerous than being a pedestrian. This is in deaths per million trips.

As another factoid, 5.8% of Portland commuters do so by bicycle, and there are typically about 5 bicycle traffic deaths per year here (varies, some years none, some years several). Even one death is too many, etc, but that strikes me not a very high number. (About 60 pedestrians die in Oregon each year, vs about 10 bicyclists statewide, this is strictly traffic deaths.)

It is in fact possible for cars and bicycles to co-exist pretty well. It happens here. But it takes work. Bike lanes, bike signals, bike route maps, bike boxes at certain intersections, etc. It helps that we don't have 50 mph surface streets and people here are fairly uncrazy. But that's true of many cities and towns.





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Roads are for cars..... I ride a bike for recreation now and then (3 -4 times per week), always on a bike path or a trail. Anybody who drives a bike on main drags during the morning and afternoon peak times is plain stupid. (not calling anybody stupid, but really......just think about it!)....I often do ride the bike on the street (5 - 6 residential blocks) to get to the bike path, I give each and every motorized vehicle the widest berth.

enzo1 09-17-2012 08:42 PM

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Joeaksa 09-17-2012 09:17 PM

Report everyone of the jerks and ask if their bosses want to see the video tape.

fintstone 09-17-2012 09:19 PM

Just drive by any wrecking yard and see the hundreds of cars crushed by accident...and imagine if you were involved in a similar accident while on your bike. Face it, people have accidents. Keeps me off the busy thoroughfares on a bike. It is suicide.

Joeaksa 09-17-2012 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 6982556)
Just drive by any wrecking yard and see the hundreds of cars crushed by accident...and imagine if you were involved in a similar accident while on your bike. Face it, people have accidents. Keeps me off the busy thoroughfares on a bike. It is suicide.

Same here. Its just not worth it, especially in busy traffic areas and places frequented by jerks. You might be in the right.... but you also might be dead right.

DanielDudley 09-18-2012 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 6982185)
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And why wouldn't you stop your bicycle and get off the road for a minute ? I know I would stop and get about five feet off the road. We honestly can't know what caused this situation, or if there was some previous interaction that caused this behavior in the driver. What we can know is that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

If you ride in dangerous traffic conditions, and you expect something to change, well, that's crazy. I used to ride in city traffic, and I know how it is done. In fact, I am very good at it. But things seem to have changed in the last few years. I don't know what has happened in this country, but people seem to have lost their grasp on what constitutes proper social behavior. It seems that today, it is all about ME. Doesn't matter which side of the coin you are on.

So, either ride or don't ride. I don't do some of the fun things I used to, because they just aren't fun or safe anymore. The things I do do, I don't get worked up about or complain about. I was forced off the road and into a curb once. I found out later that 11 people on bicycles were killed at that intersection. No lie. Believe me when I tell you I found a different way to approach that intersection.

Find a different way to ride. Or somehow wake up and smell the coffee. It isn't the same coffee you were used to. I am sorry about that.

Ride safe.

Zeke 09-18-2012 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 6982185)
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That's a ticket waiting to be written. All the bikers have to do is give the video to the cops or the DA.

But, yeah, I think I would have slowed to a crawl and just let the azzhole go. In my younger days when I had an outrages temper, I likely would have pulled over in front of the car, stopped and thrown my bike through the windshield. I did do stuff like that and I paid the price.

But it was worth every penny.

mikeferg75 09-18-2012 08:08 AM

I know the rider who shot that vid, this is my area, the driver of the explorer was reported to police and turns out has had many similar episodes with cyclists, more riders are coming forward about being harassed by the same grey explorer. Sounds like the police are taking it serious and opened a case.

Joe Bob 09-18-2012 08:23 AM

Ferg......Would love to hear more on that Exploder Asshat.

Like Zeke I would have yanked the driver thru the windwing and stomped him with my faggy bike shoes.

mikeferg75 09-18-2012 08:32 AM

I'll keep it updated when I hear more.

Joe Bob 09-18-2012 08:35 AM

Thanks Ferg....over the weekend a Doctor and his wife were smacked in a bike lane. Hit and Run.....they caught him.

I just signed up with a militant biker blog.....the wife didn't make it.

fintstone 09-18-2012 09:36 AM

Some of you bike riders that would go after the driver of a motor vehicle after a close call...keep on mind that it will get you legitimately shot in some situations.

nostatic 09-18-2012 09:42 AM

Not if the biker shoots first.

Since the car is a deadly weapon, a biker should be able to squeeze off a few rounds, right? After all, a man's bike is his castle...

aigel 09-18-2012 09:44 AM

If I am not mistaken, Colorado allows loaded guns in the vehicle (i.e. under your seat or in your door pocket). Generally I find that road rage is much reduced in such states and it may explain the bikers not throwing their bike through the windshield. ;). Regardless, it may also be just a question of time before someone takes out that SUV driver. All that has to happen is him or her running into a MFer that is crazier than them (aka Speeder! :D)

G

mikeferg75 09-18-2012 11:33 AM

Just made the local news...

Longmont-area driver honks at cyclists nonstop; Colorado State Patrol investigates - Boulder Daily Camera

Joe Bob 09-18-2012 11:59 AM

Based on the amount of hits his license plate has on Google....this guy is gonna be a bit infamous.

The PD and DA prolly won't do dick because no one in law enforcement does ANYTHING when they deal with bicyclists.......but he's gonna be the most well known Ford product since OJ's Bronco.

mikeferg75 09-18-2012 12:10 PM

I won't be shocked if we see charges.

Zeke 09-18-2012 12:18 PM

Well, I did say that was then. I'm not likely to go violent these days. There was a time that every lightweight didn't carry a gun. But now, with guns everywhere, everyone seems to think it's standard equipment just as a cell phone. Next thing you know, cell phones will be laser killing machines.

Speaking of lasers, why not carry one and pop the driver in the eye? Then toss it.

You know, I can't figure out whose side I'm on. I don't like most bicyclists but I don't like what drivers are doing to them. Had a bike fly off the sidewalk and shoot the crosswalk in front of me this morning. It's just a matter of time before I hit one.

JB, sorry to hear about the dr's wife. That bloody sucks.

enzo1 09-18-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 6979782)
Little bit of Lee Marvin there!

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jyl 09-18-2012 02:04 PM

This reminds me of the idea of a special bicycling spoon.

Alloy frame, mirror-polished; titanium cylinder; Ti fasteners; skeletonized sideplates, grip and guard; an irrational amount of drillium; maybe some carbon fiber pieces; hollow point bullets in aluminum cases. Holster integrated in a carbon fiber/Kydex saddle. The "velo-spoon" shall be made by Campagnolo, cost $3,000, come in different sizes, and be weighed to the gram.

Joe Bob 09-19-2012 03:56 PM

Does anyone remember the science fiction short story that had the vehicles versus pedestrians? I think the vehicles wer all manned by paraplegics.

I did a Google...thought the name was "Wheels" or something...no joy.

lendaddy 09-19-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Bob (Post 6986127)
Does anyone remember the science fiction short story that had the vehicles versus pedestrians? I think the vehicles wer all manned by paraplegics.

I did a Google...thought the name was "Wheels" or something...no joy.

Death Race 2000

jyl 09-19-2012 04:33 PM

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lendaddy 09-19-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeferg75 (Post 6983258)
I know the rider who shot that vid, this is my area, the driver of the explorer was reported to police and turns out has had many similar episodes with cyclists, more riders are coming forward about being harassed by the same grey explorer. Sounds like the police are taking it serious and opened a case.

Guy is a doofus, but technically there was a double yellow line (no passing). So the guy is probably trying to make a point.

jyl 09-19-2012 05:11 PM

No, the guy was borderline deranged and entirely *******.

lendaddy 09-19-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 6986281)
No, the guy was borderline deranged and entirely *******.

He can be all that and right. :)

jyl 09-19-2012 05:37 PM

His point was what?

Baz 09-19-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by enzo1 (Post 6982185)
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FWIW: This was in the comments section:

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75-year-old James Ernst of Erie, Colo. is charged with two counts of harassment, one count of impeding the flow of traffic, and one count of improper use of a horn or warning device.
I would have just braked hard enough to let this nut job by. Who needs a bunch of honking?


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