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Red88Carrera 09-18-2012 06:50 PM

Comfortable concealment
 
I will be buying an XDM .45 compact. Any suggestions on a comfortable way to conceal-carry this particular model? No open carry in NY. Ankle holster is out of the question.

Superman 09-18-2012 06:57 PM

XDM .45 sounds harder to carry than a 9 or something. I really like a shoulder holster, but you have to wear a jacket.

IWB?

Red88Carrera 09-18-2012 06:58 PM

It's a compact, but still pretty large. I'm leaning toward IWB but looking for something comfortable.

masraum 09-18-2012 06:59 PM

http://crossbreedholsters.com
I had the 4.5" XDM9 full size and then moved to the 3.8XDM9 compact. I've used the crossbreed supertuck to carry both. It's comfortable. I have carried in shorts and pants, t-shirts, polos and button up. Today for the first time I actually was wearing dress pants with a polo shirt tucked in. The concealment is very good as well as the comfort. I got the horsehide for it's resistance to fluids (sweat). I think I've had/used it for about 2 years now.

I'm 6'1" and 200#. I wear it at 3 o'clock to 4:30 or so (right hip to slightly behind the hip).

The CBST is adjustable for height and cant.

Not my gun, but it is an XDM in a CBST

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/e...6/c8d3eea6.jpg

Without a gun.
http://cdn.armslist.com/images/posts...62121ccoee.jpg

This is a decent forum. They also love the CBST here, you'll find lots of posts about them.

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Red88Carrera 09-18-2012 07:03 PM

That's worn at 3 o'clock right? Is it hard to get used to? I would think it would be more comfortable around the 4-5 o'clock position.

JAR0023 09-18-2012 07:14 PM

Stronghold Phoenix from Occidental Leather. IWB behind the strong side hip. I prefer good old fashioned leather. Retention is excellent for this holster type. I find snap loops front and rear keep things from shifting about and I have no problen taking it on or off sitting in my car. Bonus is little to no wait time. CW45, XD40, P226, 1911 all ride in one depending on my need at the time.

J

porsche4life 09-18-2012 07:23 PM

I just ordered a Galco super tuck for my XD SC 9mm. Ill let you know how it fits next week...

ODDJOB UNO 09-18-2012 07:31 PM

i have used a SERPA for years now. screw leather in the heat. screw leather in the cold. screw leather with sweat.

i have very active job in/out-up/down etc. i'm in az so leather does NOT FIT the bill AT ALL!

want positive retention????? serpa hands down.

i dont need one damn thing more in my life i have to maintenance.

once to twice a week since i carry daily/nightly, i pull spoon, drop mag,rack slide, blow all lint with air gun, drop all boolits,reload mag, blow serpa out with air gun.......DONE!


and when its 115 dee-greees F outside...............take a wild azz'd guess how HOT it is in a aircraft hanger???????


paddle type if ya prefer. or belt slide. or ya can buy there wazoo bracket and mount it chest cross draw on yer COMBAT VEST! or mount on drop leg!


if there was a better holster .............i'd buy it.


hunting is a different story, i like bianchi nylon UM-84 flap type holsters for when its muddy sandy dusty. the flap does make a difference. dont like the flap? then remove flap,use the thumb strap for retention. ambidextrious(sp), cross draw chest, under my left arm, drop leg holster etc.



i have a holster fetish...............i USE THEM DAILY!

Schrup 09-18-2012 08:26 PM

Doesn't anyone use shoulder holsters anymore? I can't imagine something jammed in my drawers is gonna be as comfortable as my Galco Miami Classic secured to my belt. I used to wear it all day everyday with no issues. I don't pack now, but may again soon.

masraum 09-19-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 6984503)
That's worn at 3 o'clock right? Is it hard to get used to? I would think it would be more comfortable around the 4-5 o'clock position.

Sometimes I wear it at 3 and sometimes at 4-5. It works either way and is equally comfortable either way, but then I suspect your build will at least partially determine comfort in various positions. It wasn't really hard for me to get used to at all.

masraum 09-19-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porsche4life (Post 6984531)
I just ordered a Galco super tuck for my XD SC 9mm. Ill let you know how it fits next week...

Those are also quite popular.

masraum 09-19-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODDJOB UNO (Post 6984541)
i have used a SERPA for years now. screw leather in the heat. screw leather in the cold. screw leather with sweat.

That's why I got the horse hide option instead of the leather. I like leather watch bands, but I don't wear them because of the sweat. I didn't want to spend $70 on a holster that was going to smell really bad in a year. I got the horse hide because it's supposed to be much less likely to absorb sweat/liquid than cow hide. I have to say, that's absolutely been the case, but then I also don't live in AZ, and especially don't work in a hangar in AZ. I've also never dug a ditch in Houston wearing my holster. But I do wear it all of the time when I'm not at work and it's fine.

I suspect if I was in AZ, I would need/use a plastic holster.

masraum 09-19-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schrup (Post 6984600)
Doesn't anyone use shoulder holsters anymore? I can't imagine something jammed in my drawers is gonna be as comfortable as my Galco Miami Classic secured to my belt. I used to wear it all day everyday with no issues. I don't pack now, but may again soon.

I think one of the main reasons that I have heard that they aren't used much is that they are considered less safe.

Red88Carrera 09-20-2012 04:39 PM

I'm really liking the reviews on the crossbreed. I stumbled upon this holster that claims to have a few refinements over the crossbreed. Are they valid?
https://clevelandsholsters.com/Home.html

on2wheels52 09-20-2012 04:53 PM

re: Comfortable concealment

Ain't no such thing (unless being w/o makes you uncomfortable)
And I've carried the same piece in the same place since '85.
Jim

masraum 09-20-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red88Carrera (Post 6988262)
I'm really liking the reviews on the crossbreed. I stumbled upon this holster that claims to have a few refinements over the crossbreed. Are they valid?
https://clevelandsholsters.com/Home.html

Looks like one of them must be copying the other, but I don't know which came first. It looks like the CH is a bit cheaper than the CBST (a little extra $ to add the horsehide option). What are the refinements? I see a little more leather, that may or may not be an improvement, but then you could always trim some if you want. The only 2 other things that I see are the adjustable retention screws, but with this holster, the retention comes more from the thing being pressed against your body than from the tightness of the kydex. The only other thing that I see is the 49 position adjustments. I really can't (no pun intended) imagine the need for that many settings.

It seems like it could be a pretty good deal.

Red88Carrera 09-20-2012 05:28 PM

Kydex over the end of the barrel and over the top of the pant line. Are these needed?

john70t 09-20-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 6984495)

To counteract muzzle-rise in such a small frame, they angled the grip angle way back.
That requires the wrist to be angled downwards. Bent. Weak.

A .45 packs a punch. A punch should be made straight.

ODDJOB UNO 09-20-2012 05:46 PM

the last leather holster i did buy was a "dillon leather" for my hk uspc 9mm. at 1st it fit great, but as time wore on the retention factor went to POO!

at 1st i could hold holster with spoon upside down and it would stay put. after maybe a year and a 1/2 , it would fall right out.


retention is critical for me. leather doesnt like getting wet. you can treat it with leather lubes, but with hot / cold freezing scalding temps, it just doesnt last worn daily. same with leather dirty bike boots. you can lube them every time you go ride and after a few years they just dry out and crack.

remember small is good, because very very few of us are cops and we are NOT offensively carrying, we ARE DEFENSIVELY CARRYING!

and yeah there really isnt a "100%" comfortable way to carry. its always a pain, but its better then the alternative,and its the price we have to pay for a warm fuzzy.

john70t 09-20-2012 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john70t (Post 6988361)
To counteract muzzle-rise in such a small frame, they angled the grip angle way back.
That requires the wrist to be angled downwards. Bent. Weak.

A .45 packs a punch. A punch should be made straight.

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