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09-28-2012 03:13 AM |
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Originally Posted by RWebb
(Post 7002131)
Indeed - not to mention the increased electronic complexity over time.
Maybe there is a sweet spot (of sorts) once you hit the years with OBD systems, which I think make it easier to diagnose engine problems compared with the last few years before OBD.
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Originally Posted by aigel
(Post 7002164)
The newer cars break less. Not just because they are newer. Generally they are more reliable. I'd still look at a brand new TDI and not worry about repairs or a penny spent on maintenance for 3 years.
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Both great points. I enjoy DIY work on my car, it's a source of pride to me and I know that nobody else would be as anal as I am. There are many things that I cannot DIY on a modern car, particularly a complex luxury car. At least my RX8 is pretty simple, there aren't many magical black boxes like you find in a modern Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, etc.
Personally I think the sweet spot was mid-1980s through mid-1990s. Reliable yet relatively simple EFI systems like Motronic were the norm, most cars had normal power features like windows and locks but they were simple systems. No body control ECUs, OBD systems with a multitude of sensors to monitor your every move, and no worthless electrical gizmos. Generally speaking cars of this era, like the W124 and 911 Carrera, were still mechanical devices. Today's cars typically require complex computer diagnostics to find problems, then the component is replaced. There's really not even much repair work done, it's all just R&R components which is reflected in component quality.
I have a sticky window switch in my 911. The fix is to take apart the switch, clean it, and put it back together. It is robust enough that the actual components rarely fail, instead a good cleaning will get it back in order. Modern parts aren't made this way, they are meant to be replaced. Something about that just doesn't seem right. Today it's pretty easy to find a 20 year old BMW, even in rough shape they are hard to kill. But I predict that in 20 years, you won't see many 20 year old modern BMWs on the road. You'll see the older BMWs from simpler times that are worth keeping like the E34, E30, and 2002, but I can't imagine time being very kind on a modern iDrive equipped 550i.
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