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Groesbeck Hurricane 10-24-2012 10:04 AM

Looking for a Recruiter
 
I am looking for a Recruiter to talk to so I can open up some options. Looking to move back to Texas or Oklahoma. Please shoot me a PM with their contact information if you know someone who is good.

Idustries:

Pharmaceutical (Liquid and Gel (RX and OTC), Lyophilization, CHO)

Food (Processing, Packaging, Fresh, Frozen, Dried)

Chemical (Mix, Distillation)

Manufacturing


Positions:

Materials Management

Production Planning/Controller

Project Management


Thanks in advance!

mreid 10-24-2012 01:44 PM

I have a role in El Paso for a technical manager in a foam and foam product plant. If interested, send me a pm.

SeanPizzle 10-24-2012 03:35 PM

Recruiters almost always work for employers, not job seekers. The key is to make yourself easy to find by recruiters looking to fill a slot. Are you on Linkedin with a very detailed (ie, keyword searchable) background? If not you should be.

Are there professional organizations for the work you do? if they have an annual convention, make sure you go and build your network.

Have you made a list of potential employers and found the hiring manager? You want a rifle shot approach and not a shotgun broadcast.

Most importantly, the vast majority of jobs are found through personal and extended networks. Linkedin is invaluable for this.

aigel 10-24-2012 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanPizzle (Post 7050632)
Recruiters almost always work for employers, not job seekers. The key is to make yourself easy to find by recruiters looking to fill a slot. Are you on Linkedin with a very detailed (ie, keyword searchable) background? If not you should be.

Are there professional organizations for the work you do? if they have an annual convention, make sure you go and build your network.

Have you made a list of potential employers and found the hiring manager? You want a rifle shot approach and not a shotgun broadcast.

Most importantly, the vast majority of jobs are found through personal and extended networks. Linkedin is invaluable for this.

+1

I don't know of any recruiters that will sign up for finding you a job. They will gladly take your resume, but that may be hurting you. I have commented on this subject numerous times. I will look up the links.

G

aigel 10-24-2012 04:34 PM

From this thread:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/649744-offering-bounty-head-hunter.html
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Recruiters generally are paid a fee that is proportional to the salary of the candidate. 1-2 month salary aren't uncommon. The companies certainly do not take this fee out of the salary of the new employee. Salary ranges are pretty well defined usually, and a new candidate will not start for something that isn't at least average for the position and experience.

One thing that recruiters usually are hired for is for finding highly specialized people that are often not searching for a job at all and are sometimes employed by a competitor. A small or mid-size company does usually not have the resources in HR to go on such a search and it would also be considered unethical to cold call someone at the competition directly.

Reputable recruiters often have a long term relationship with the company that hires them and they look for repeat business. They will not bring someone to the company that the do not believe is an excellent match. This may explain why they would not want to take money from both sides. They definitely do work for the employers.

I personally would only work with a headhunter if they call me with a specific job they are trying to fill. If you just give them your resume, you better make sure they only present it to companies and for openings you agree to previously. If the recruiter spams every company out there with your resume, it may hurt your chance to hire on. Generally, for a year after the resume is received, the company will have to pay the recruiter's fee. This may discourage them from hiring you, especially if you are in a lower paid position that is easily filled with other candidates that did not come in through a recruiter.
Other related threads I commented on - same message ...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/451556-job-recruiters-totally-worthless-worth-shot.html
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/584982-i-forget-executive-recruiters-also-sales-people.html

Hope this helps. Good luck on your job search!

G

Groesbeck Hurricane 10-25-2012 02:22 AM

Yes, I know most recruiters work for companies to place people. My friend who does this works the same way.

The trouble is my friend has nothing where I wish to go and my contacts have positions in California, New York, Chicago, etc. I will not fit into those environments. My contacts in Texas have entry level things but nothing for my level.

It hurts finishing the Masters up with a projected 3.9 and having to move from your current position (my supervisor is an avid supporter of me) in a poor job market. I know things are booming in Houston, Austin, Dallas/Ft Worth but not necessarily in Pharma.

I have avoided social media (outside of Pelican and some gun forums) so I have not been on Linkedin. Guess it is likely time to make a move?

Ah well, I will keep chugging along!

aigel 10-25-2012 07:36 AM

A good linkedin profile will be found by recruiters if there are matching jobs. Make sure you have good searchable terms and skills & expertise that match your person and your job search.

Putting your resume on Monster may help too - but only if your current company knows you are looking. (Otherwise they will find you on there and that's not good).

G

M.D. Holloway 10-25-2012 08:50 AM

Check out Linkedin - place is filthy with head hunters!

Groesbeck Hurricane 10-25-2012 08:57 AM

Thanks! Yes, Management is aware of what is happening. We are all on good terms.

FWIW, I always found Monster to be the low end engine. We would not look at resumes if the people were listed on Monster at a couple of places I have worked.

Rick Lee 10-25-2012 09:10 AM

My LinkedIn profile is awful and I need to update it. All of my co-workers have pretty detailed profiles there, which read like resumes. So, while they may not officially be looking for other job opps, their profiles are written in such a way as to let folks know their qualifications. When I got on there, it was more of an early Facebook-like platform for keeping track of folks you used to work with.

t6dpilot 10-25-2012 10:19 AM

Like others have said, get on LinkedIn and develop a detailed, key-word rich profile. Recruiters WILL find you if you have the attributes or skills they are looking for.


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