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Joeaksa 11-09-2012 08:08 AM

Remember that discussion about our Defense spending?
 
Well they just announced something that really puts the ball back in our court... this one will be very hard, if not impossible to defend against.

CHAMP - lights out (Video)

A recent weapons flight test in the Utah desert may change future warfare after the missile successfully defeated electronic targets with little to no collateral damage.

Boeing and the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) Directed Energy Directorate, Kirtland Air Force Base, N.M., successfully tested the Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project (CHAMP) during a flight over the Utah Test and Training Range.

CHAMP, which renders electronic targets useless, is a non-kinetic alternative to traditional explosive weapons that use the energy of motion to defeat a target.
Artist's rendering shows a CHAMP flying over a target

During the test, the CHAMP missile navigated a pre-programmed flight plan and emitted bursts of high-powered energy, effectively knocking out the target's data and electronic subsystems. CHAMP allows for selective high-frequency radio wave strikes against numerous targets during a single mission.

"This technology marks a new era in modern-day warfare," said Keith Coleman, CHAMP program manager for Boeing Phantom Works. "In the near future, this technology may be used to render an enemy’s electronic and data systems useless even before the first troops or aircraft arrive."

GH85Carrera 11-09-2012 08:19 AM

I am glad we have it but how long before the bad guys have it too?

Joeaksa 11-09-2012 08:22 AM

As long as we do not let one fall into foreign hands, or have a traitor inside the company who is building it pass the info along, hope that we have it a long time...

GH85Carrera 11-09-2012 08:25 AM

The Russians had spies in the Manhattan project. How are we going to keep them out of this project. I hope we can keep it secure.

widebody911 11-09-2012 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 7081852)
The Russians had spies in the Manhattan project. How are we going to keep them out of this project. I hope we can keep it secure.

We'll end up just giving the tech away because we'll want to use cheaper labor and manufacturing.

RedBaron 11-09-2012 09:47 AM

The Chinese probably already stole the plans from us.

Seahawk 11-09-2012 09:54 AM

There is nothing particularly compelling about this other than B's assertion that they can get access with this weapon, position it to be effective.

They could most certainly here in the U.S. (we have no air defenses), but good luck in a peer competitors air space.

Look up SEAD.

Joeaksa 11-09-2012 10:10 AM

Paul,

Do you think that any country is even close to us with the "Wild Weasel" forces? I cannot really remember any other country that has even done it to any large extent other than Israel.

Seahawk 11-09-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Joeaksa (Post 7082089)
Paul,

Do you think that any country is even close to us with the "Wild Weasel" forces? I cannot really remember any other country that has even done it to any large extent other than Israel.

Do a search on Next Gen Jamming. The AF walked away and the Navy is clueless...billions spent to zero return. Current jammers are morts.

Peer competitor missile technology is such that even with Stealth you get one pass, maybe.

Joeaksa 11-09-2012 10:26 AM

Thats exactly what I was concerned about...

"One pass" .... and you better be on full AB after that.

john70t 11-09-2012 10:56 AM

Faraday cage would block this, but any sensory equip would be toasted though. Follow up with HE using GPS.

There was a doomsday device created long ago using the earth:
Tesla Lightning Experiments | eHow.com
"Tesla had some success with his experiments, and they were spectacular. He was able to generate an artificial lightning bolt 135 feet long. The area around the lab glowed when some of the experiments were in session. He lighted vacuum bulbs stuck in the ground at a distance of 25 miles without a wire connection. Some of these experiments took a tremendous amount of power and disabled the generator for all the power to Colorado Springs."

ODDJOB UNO 11-09-2012 11:21 AM

so this means if we go to fullscale NBC WARFARE..............that i and jillions of others will no longer be able to mental masturbate on a computer.

MAN THATS HARSH!



heres a tidbit from the late 80's and early/mid 90's. because what WE KNOW and WHAT IS REAL.................are 180 apart as far as technology, and how far beyond it really is from our piss lil civilian brains.


way back when as mentioned one of my accounts was hollomon a.f.b. which was the highly secure home base of the F-117 squadron. i had my clearance to go right down onto flightline and speak to whomever i had to as far as machine shop tooling. we did the f-117 wing flap actuators.


while driving from hanger to hanger which also houses the "8563rd rail group" or some such number rail group. we saw signs along the base roads "THINK MACH 10" holy ned MACH FREEKING 10! that was back in late 80's early 90's.


now the rail group lil elves proudly bring you every sort of ejection seat testing involving any type of platform. they take fuselages filled with munitions and ram them at mega mach speed with a rocket and simulate a fully loaded combat jet crashing into a nuklar containment dome and lets see what happens.


thankfully all nuke containment domes can withstand a crash of a fully loaded combat aircraft. so right there if ya think yer tax dollars are being pissed away on defense.................well they aint being pissed away and i sleep easier at night because of them.


but what theres MORE.....................also at hollomon is the LARGEST PRIMATE TESTING FACILITY ON THE PLANET!

the minkees(monkeys) lil home makes a pelican bay supermax prison look like a kindergarten as far as electrified fences, numbers of rows of fences and ARMED GUARDS!

now what do they do with those lil prick minkees?????


1) they ram their lil azz'z down the standard gauge rail and test ejection seats.

2) they test them for AIDS

3) EBOLA

4) every disease known to man



while there one day in a old wwII aircraft hanger(hollomon during wwII was a bomber training base) we heard gunshots off in the distance. me being me asked the airforce guy we were dealing with on tooling "WTF" is that? and his reply was "oh some of the minkees(monkees) have escaped and the air police are shooting them!"


HOLY POO! yeah those lil bastids infected with whatever nasty azz disease are escape artists!


anyway we have had a gazzilion campfire talks hunting camping fishing on WTF CAN/DOES GO MACH 10?????????



so bottomline what WE know and WHAT REALLY IZ......................well unless yer involved in one of these "black hole" projects, NOBODY KNOWS until its needed in the event of war and SUDDENLY appears packing one huge azz WHOOP AZZ STICK against the enemy!


i am sure if yer a freeking lil nasty azz MINKEE(monkey) some of yer bruddahs know WTF "THINK MACH 10" is ALL ABOUT as they go sailing down the rails in a mockup fuselage!

jyl 11-09-2012 05:52 PM

Naive question. Why would BA "announce" this? Wouldn't it be better developed in secret?


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