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yellowperil 12-14-2012 06:44 AM

Dumb question
 
I've gotta ask. "Spoon"??? What does this refer to? I see over and over in OT,
probably you guys are not comparing tea sets or silver ware, right?

MBAtarga 12-14-2012 06:44 AM

otherwise known as a lead delivery device - IE gun

M.D. Holloway 12-14-2012 06:53 AM

TABS coined the phrase to use as a cover so the feds wouldn't be able to get to his cache info...

cashflyer 12-14-2012 07:49 AM

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.../02/spoon1.JPG

s_morrison57 12-14-2012 07:52 AM

It through me off too, I also had to ask

recycled sixtie 12-14-2012 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 7149096)
I've gotta ask. "Spoon"??? What does this refer to? I see over and over in OT,
probably you guys are not comparing tea sets or silver ware, right?

You must be Canadian or non-American!It's okay. It took me a while to figure out too. CCW is related too.There is a wide array of words, acronyms on this forum that takes a while to understand.......

12own911 12-14-2012 08:08 AM

Here's my dumb question. I blew a fuse at home and tried to reset it at the breaker but it will not reset, what's my next step? Keep in mind that I am a girl without skills on my house and have no man to help. You all are my men and women who know things... and can assist me. Help please. :D

vash 12-14-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12own911 (Post 7149251)
Here's my dumb question. I blew a fuse at home and tried to reset it at the breaker but it will not reset, what's my next step? Keep in mind that I am a girl without skills on my house and have no man to help. You all are my men and women who know things... and can assist me. Help please. :D

it trips again..right away?

T77911S 12-14-2012 08:36 AM

it took me a while to figure the spoon thing. i use to think these guys were realy strange for collecting "real" spoons, which i have heard of.


Quote:

Originally Posted by 12own911 (Post 7149251)
Here's my dumb question. I blew a fuse at home and tried to reset it at the breaker but it will not reset, what's my next step? Keep in mind that I am a girl without skills on my house and have no man to help. You all are my men and women who know things... and can assist me. Help please. :D

not to be a smart A@@ at all, just trying to educate so you can get help.

there is a difference between a fuse and a circuit breaker. fuses are either round and screw in, or shaped like a (i cant say it), tube of lipstick and you can pull them out. (please be careful areound this stuff. make sure power is off before changing fuses).
a circuit breaker has a switch and can be reset, fuse are replaced.

now, i will assume you have a circuit breaker.
it depends on what caused the breaker to trip. if you had to many things on the circuit that the breaker feeds, thats no big deal. turn some things off and/or find another room to plug them into. now one breaker can feed several outlets, including the lights in that room.

if everything is turned off that the breaker feed, and it trips as soon as you reset it, you have a short. this can cause a fire.
if there is a short that caused the breaker to trip, call an electrician.

there could also be something plugged in that is shroted causing it to trip, so unplug everything, then reset. (try to limit how much you do this in case there is a wiring problem)

cashflyer 12-14-2012 08:40 AM

What were you doing when the breaker tripped?
Had you just started running some electrical device? Vacuum, stove, arc welder, etc?
Or had some device just come on?

If the breaker will not reset at all, it could be a faulty breaker.
Or it could be that the line is still overloaded, or shorted to ground.

Is it a standard breaker, or a GFCI breaker?
Have you tried swapping it with a breaker of the same rating?

12own911 12-14-2012 08:56 AM

So while waiting for the PP braintrust, I called an electrician to come out and see what's wrong. I have not added anything to the plugs was just trying to pop some popcorn when it tripped. Now it comes and goes without doing anything.

Sorry about the fuse to breaker comment. I am a blond girl so I can make mistakes when calling one thing something else. Could also be due to stroke I had 9 years ago. I stilll mix up words...

Thanks everyone for your input. I hope the electrician can fix it without costing an arm and a leg.

cashflyer 12-14-2012 09:01 AM

A standard Square-D breaker from the big box store should cost less than $20.
Can't begin to guess what the service charge will be.

12own911 12-14-2012 09:05 AM

I was told that it will be free for me to come out but will pay $75 for 1 hr of labor and then whatever the cost is for the breaker fix. The company stated they would work with me on price because I mentioned reading reviews and some claimed they were high priced.

T77911S 12-14-2012 09:40 AM

i hate to see woman by themselves and have to call someone. i am always afraid they will get taken advantage of.

as cash ma y be implying, it could just be a weak breaker. they are easy to change, but i even hate getting into electrical panels, and i just wired in a completely new service to my house and garage. i debated on if i should advise you on how to do it, but your life is more important than $100.
any neighbors close by that can help?

i am always doing stuff for my neighbor.

recycled sixtie 12-14-2012 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 7149096)
I've gotta ask. "Spoon"??? What does this refer to? I see over and over in OT,
probably you guys are not comparing tea sets or silver ware, right?

The only dumb question is one that is not asked. Relates to ASSUME = makes an a-s out of u and me.:)

cashflyer 12-14-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7149459)
The only dumb question is one that is not asked.

Will waxing a turtle's shell reduce its aerodynamic drag?

GH85Carrera 12-14-2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7149459)
The only dumb question is one that is not asked. Relates to ASSUME = makes an a-s out of u and me.:)

Not true. There are some dumb questions. None so far in this thread, but a question can be dumb. Edit cashflyer beat me to it. ;)

Back in 1974 when Sweet Home Alabama was released I was at a dance party in Alabama. As the song came on everyone with a partner went to the dance floor.

One Yankee kid asked me "Is that a popular song around here?" That is a dumb question.

12own911 12-14-2012 10:10 AM

Hi Braintrust, does work to replace a breaker require a permit? The electrician says yes.

cashflyer 12-14-2012 10:12 AM

I guess it could in California, but here in SC - no.

12own911 12-14-2012 10:16 AM

It's a bummer. I need the work done but if it requires a permit then I am TSOL until permit is received.

yellowperil 12-14-2012 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7149249)
You must be Canadian or non-American!It's okay. It took me a while to figure out too. CCW is related too.There is a wide array of words, acronyms on this forum that takes a while to understand.......

Yes., Canadian, seems we don't know about these lead delivery systems. Now what is CCW?? Some might not believe this, but I don't know one person who owns a gun. I might join the A.A.A.A.

yellowperil 12-14-2012 10:33 AM

A.A.A.A.= anti acronym association of america (northern chapter)

Craig 12-14-2012 12:12 PM

Kim,
Did you reset the breaker by turning it off, and then back to the on position?
If you just try to push the breaker to the on position, I dont't think it will work, must be shut off and then back on.

You should be able to call your local Building Permit government office and find out if you need a permit. To me, it seems kind of odd that one is needed.

Craig

red-beard 12-14-2012 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LubeMaster77 (Post 7149117)
TABS coined the phrase to use as a cover so the feds wouldn't be able to get to his cache info...

Actually, it wasn't Tabs. Tabs actually collects spoons, or did. But he was also known for being a collector/former FFL. Someone here mistook his reference to spoons as being a code word for firearm.

And then it just kind of stuck.

Me? I think I need a ladle

Eric Coffey 12-14-2012 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12own911 (Post 7149251)
Here's my dumb question. I blew a fuse at home and tried to reset it at the breaker but it will not reset, what's my next step? Keep in mind that I am a girl without skills on my house and have no man to help. You all are my men and women who know things... and can assist me. Help please. :D

Sometimes a breaker can become loose on the panel, resulting in random/continious trips. If you can take the panel faceplate off (ususally just 1 or 2 screws), you should be able to remove and replace the breaker to make sure it's properly seated. I can't imagine that replacing a breaker would require a permit though.

Dantilla 12-14-2012 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7149459)
The only dumb question is one that is not asked.

There may not be any stupid questions, but there sure are a lot of inquisitive idiots....

craigster59 12-14-2012 02:50 PM

Kim, you do not need a permit to change a breaker AFAIK. If the electrician says you do, find another one who will take care of it. Seriously, it's a fifteen minute job max, a little tougher than changing a lightbulb. He should install a new breaker and test the circuit to make sure there aren't any shorts.

targa911S 12-14-2012 04:41 PM

what he said^^^^^

GWN7 12-15-2012 12:11 AM

A spoon is a device used to feed yourself. A CCW is a permit to allow you to Conceal Carry Weapon. Called many different things in different parts of the country.


Kim- breakers can get weak over time and won't reset properly. You must know someone who can change it for you? Someone you work with? Their husband or second cousin?

The tools needed to change a breaker are a flashlight and a screwdriver. Go look in the panel and find out who the manufacture of the panel is. Write it down. Identify the breaker that is thrown. What number is on it? 15, 20 or 30? That is the amperage of the breaker. Write that down. And any other numbers you see on the panel. Go to Big Box stores electrical dept. Flash your baby blues ( I assume since your blond you have blue eyes :) ) at whom is working there and ask them for the breaker (info written on paper). Go home and save the bill incase Big Box Person was a idiot and sold you wrong breaker.

Go to ele panel and shut off main breaker (big switch usually at top of panel). Now turn on flashlight. Use screwdriver to remove screws from cover panel. This exposes the breakers. Pull blown breaker out of panel (they usually have to be pulled toward the same side of the panel box they are located on to remove. Unscrew wire attached to breaker and reattach same wire to new breaker. Replace breaker in panel. Screw panel cover back on. Turn back on main breaker. Go reset your clocks and make popcorn.

Hard-Deck 12-15-2012 02:10 AM

Do you mean the breaker resets and then pops again.....or.....do you mean it will not even reset?

If you mean it will not reset, make sure to pull the switch all the way over to the OFF side, that resets it, then switch it ON

KFC911 12-15-2012 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 7150688)
...Kim- breakers can get weak over time and won't reset properly. You must know someone who can change it for you? Someone you work with? Their husband or second cousin?

The tools needed to change a breaker are a flashlight and a screwdriver. Go look in the panel and find out who the manufacture of the panel is. Write it down. Identify the breaker that is thrown. What number is on it? 15, 20 or 30? That is the amperage of the breaker. Write that down. And any other numbers you see on the panel. Go to Big Box stores electrical dept. Flash your baby blues ( I assume since your blond you have blue eyes :) ) at whom is working there and ask them for the breaker (info written on paper). Go home and save the bill incase Big Box Person was a idiot and sold you wrong breaker.

Go to ele panel and shut off main breaker (big switch usually at top of panel). Now turn on flashlight. Use screwdriver to remove screws from cover panel. This exposes the breakers. Pull blown breaker out of panel (they usually have to be pulled toward the same side of the panel box they are located on to remove. Unscrew wire attached to breaker and reattach same wire to new breaker. Replace breaker in panel. Screw panel cover back on. Turn back on main breaker. Go reset your clocks and make popcorn.

+1...excellent advice above imo, just make sure you do what I highlighted in red and you'll be fine!

12own911 12-15-2012 02:41 PM

Hi guys, it was the main breaker that was dying. Everything I read said that if it was the main breaker call an electrician. The electrician said that the original installation of the outdoor panel was put in badly. He had to shut off one of the lines from the electric company. Permits received and work to replace the panel is scheduled for Monday after the the 'main" man comes and puts of the thingy on the panel box. It's expensive but I believe it will be worth it in the end.

Thanks for all of your support. The braintrust at its best.

azasadny 12-15-2012 02:50 PM

Kim, I'm glad you had an electrician work on this for you. Your home and piece of mind is well worth the cost to get it fixed ... right!

GWN7 12-15-2012 02:59 PM

Main breaker replacement requires electrican and permit as the power needs to be turned off at the poleand yes it can be expensive. Glad to hear you figured out what was wrong. :)

ckelly78z 12-15-2012 04:46 PM

Wow, here in Ohio we had an electrician replace the whole box and install 200 amp service. We only needed to have the electric company come out to run the new feed line, but no permits were required (or asked about).

Por_sha911 12-15-2012 05:02 PM

Its the secret code word for the boys tree fort to be cool.


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