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Drdogface 12-17-2012 04:03 PM

Wife's Explorer died...need to find a good replacement
 
Her Ford Explorer is 15 years old and is nickel and dimeing her to death...but not nickels and dimes. It's time to replace it with something. She insists on an SUV but not necessarily a Ford. We'd prefer to buy 'gently used' or lease return perhaps ...just no money to buy new these days.

Gimme your recommendations on brands, models and where to find a good one with low milage. I don't think that rental cars would be overly abused and would be decently maintained but could be wrong. Something with 30K or so on the clock should be reliable for a long time. Only gonna be a daily driver.

Thanks in advance...

kaisen 12-17-2012 04:09 PM

Man, there are so many to choose from. First, does she like the cute-ute size category? Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX7, Nissan Rogue, Ford Escape, etc?
Or does she want more midsize? Nissan Murano? Ford Edge? Chev Equinox?

Does she need all wheel drive or is a good front-drive with traction control enough?

vash 12-17-2012 04:13 PM

the new Explorer is fantastic looking. i dont know crap about them..but if it came with a Ecoboost motor..dang.

Drdogface 12-17-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7155810)
Man, there are so many to choose from. First, does she like the cute-ute size category? Honda CRV, Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX7, Nissan Rogue, Ford Escape, etc?
Or does she want more midsize? Nissan Murano? Ford Edge? Chev Equinox?

Does she need all wheel drive or is a good front-drive with traction control enough?

Yeah, I know I should have been more specific. I think an American, 4WD, mid size would be what she'd want. Explorer, Durango, Tahoe...etc. I just don't know where to shop for them with low miles and good maintenance ...maybe a rental car agency.

Aggie93 12-17-2012 04:26 PM

I'm going through this right now:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/723756-replacing-toyota-highlander.html

Still have a few vehicles to check out, but the Buick Enclave is top of the list. This might stretch our price point a bit since I think we need the power folding mirrors for it to fit in the garage.

I went to a GM dealer, I think it was Buick, and they had a bunch of rental company cars that came back to GM. Then GM sends them out to the dealerships. At least that was the story. The sales guy said that GM extends the warranty as if its in service date is when you buy it.

ckelly78z 12-17-2012 04:26 PM

If she doesn't need the towing capacity or seating capacity, I definately wouldn't go with another V8 model like the tahoe, explorer, or especially the Duango. These trucks are hard to park, get bad fuel mileage, and cost more to insure due to thier size and damage potential.

If she likes the higher seat position of an SUV, you might consider something like a Buick Rendevous, or other crossover vehicles, or an AWD minivan.

kaisen 12-17-2012 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aggie93 (Post 7155857)
I went to a GM dealer, I think it was Buick, and they had a bunch of rental company cars that came back to GM. Then GM sends them out to the dealerships. At least that was the story. The sales guy said that GM extends the warranty as if its in service date is when you buy it.


GM dealers must seek out and purchase rental returns. Just like any other dealer, franchised or not. GM doesn't give used vehicles to dealers.

GM "offers" an extended warranty that you may purchase for extra money. Either selling you a warranty, or Certified-Pre-Owned where the expense is built into the higher selling price. If you want an extended warranty, buy one. If not, save the money. GM doesn't extend it for free.

Scott R 12-17-2012 04:51 PM

Get another Explorer a few years newer? I know someone that racks up an insane amount of miles on his explorers then just trades a year up a few years. Seems like the doors can be falling of these things and they still run.

LeeH 12-17-2012 04:52 PM

I was looking at wagons & small suvs recently. After a lot of reading I figured a newer RAV4 V6 was going to be the answer. For a bit more money I'd be looking for a Mazda CX5. It's received great reviews.

kaisen 12-17-2012 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 7155839)
Yeah, I know I should have been more specific. I think an American, 4WD, mid size would be what she'd want. Explorer, Durango, Tahoe...etc. I just don't know where to shop for them with low miles and good maintenance ...maybe a rental car agency.

The Ford Explorer is now a front-drive based unibody large crossover with third row seating
The Ford Edge is basically the shorter five passenger version of the Explorer

Both are V6, both are quicker and more powerful than her 15 year old Explorer (to be expected). I think she'd like either one, depending on her preferences.

They're very nice vehicles. Angela has two late-model Edges in her family, you may want to ask her.

Enterprise may offer rental returns directly through their stores. Some stores have dealer's license to do so.

Otherwise, any dealer can acquire a rental return. Just walk into one that you trust and talk to them about what you want. If they don't have it, they can get it.

I can provide that service for anyone, anywhere in the country. But so can your local Ford dealer, or any dealer.

Drdogface 12-17-2012 04:55 PM

Her Explorer is a full seat model and V6.. It's been OK.. I think a V8 is a waste of money in this situation. Also need 4WD up here.

quicksix 12-17-2012 04:56 PM

Hey Doc,
We have had good luck with the weekend deal out at Sierra college.
We found my car coming off lease,and my wife also found her car out there.
We went through the normal ppi stuff and it worked out well.
just a thought
Good luck with your search!

kaisen 12-17-2012 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drdogface (Post 7155921)
Her Explorer is a full seat model and V6.. It's been OK.. I think a V8 is a waste of money in this situation. Also need 4WD up here.

What's a full seat model?

The Explorer wasn't available with a third row until 2002. Before that it was typically a 5 passenger -- two front buckets and a 60/40 split rear bench with 3 seatbelts. I assume that 15 years old means 1997 or 1998? A Ford Edge would be roughly the size equivalent now, with a modern Explorer being slightly larger.

Drdogface 12-17-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7155931)
What's a full seat model?

.

She just need a full front and back seat w/o having to go thru Yoga moves to get in the back. Third row seat is not wanted cuz the storage for groceries back there is needed.

DARISC 12-17-2012 05:09 PM

Wife's Explorer died...need to find a good replacement
 
Have you checked out your local singles bars?

Mark Howard 12-17-2012 05:13 PM

I got a 2012 Explorer Limited as a company car in January this year. Big, but not too big, comfortable, good fuel economy, Sync Bluetooth system works pretty good (some road noise when on the phone) interior fit and finish is good, but not great. I've put about 20K miles on it this year. No problems. If I was in the market, I'd buy one.

Aggie93 12-17-2012 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7155896)
GM dealers must seek out and purchase rental returns. Just like any other dealer, franchised or not. GM doesn't give used vehicles to dealers.

GM "offers" an extended warranty that you may purchase for extra money. Either selling you a warranty, or Certified-Pre-Owned where the expense is built into the higher selling price. If you want an extended warranty, buy one. If not, save the money. GM doesn't extend it for free.

It was a CPO. It sounded like it was a little different because it was a rental car return, but probably more salemanship. i was only paying half attention.

UconnTim97 12-17-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

the new explorer is fantastic looking. I dont know crap about them..but if it came with a ecoboost motor..dang.
+1

GWN7 12-17-2012 06:19 PM

Eric mentioned Enterprise. I bought my last truck from them. Easy to deal with. Truck was $10K cheaper than the same ones up here.

Enterprise Car Sales Locations

pavulon 12-17-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UconnTim97 (Post 7156033)
+1

They do. Explorer Sport.

2013 Ford Explorer Sport | The Premium Driving Experience | Ford.com

85eurocarrera 12-18-2012 03:38 AM

we're in the same position. replacing volvo v70R with suv. wife likes Enclave, I think they look awful.

I plan to contact Eric once I get my ducks in a row and choice figured out.

one thing I've noticed and appreciate is the feeling of safety and substantial-ness of our Volvo. I drove a '10 Accadia w/25,xxx anb '08 Cayenne w/52,xxx back to back and there's no comparison. These were in the same price range. Safety is high on our list.

Icemaster 12-18-2012 04:38 AM

From an SUV guy, I'd go with the Edge. I'll buy another. Went from Greand Cherokee --> Grand Cherokee --> Sub OBW (not the best move) --> Edge.

Wouldnt go back. Next step will be either another Edge or Explorer.

Rtrorkt 12-18-2012 04:52 AM

i must say that every time i drive my Touraeg Diesel I am extremely pleased with it. Huge tourqe, quiet ride, will tow what you need and very solidly built

kaisen 12-18-2012 07:43 AM

Here's just an example of a rental return 2013 Ford Explorer XLT 4WD located in San Francisco, CA

14K miles
Dual power seats
Rear camera
Ford My Touch touchscreen/Sync
Dual zone digital climate control
Etc, etc (see sticker)

Grade 4.2 of 5.0 (above average)
No paintwork, no damage, no accidents

Should stay under $29K with everything

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848703.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848709.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848715.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848722.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848728.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848732.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355848738.jpg

72doug2,2S 12-18-2012 07:51 AM

Great Scott! Dead? You have my condolences.

Scott's explorer group is also gone, but I'm sure there bound to be new explorers out there.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1355849496.jpg

Rot 911 12-18-2012 07:52 AM

If she liked the old Explorer she will really like the new version. Either that or a Tahoe. I think she would like/be comfortable with either.

onewhippedpuppy 12-18-2012 11:24 AM

Considering how I have driven rental cars in the past, I would REALLY not want to buy one. Just thinking out loud here....:cool:

95avblm3 12-18-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 7157556)
Considering how I have driven rental cars in the past, I would REALLY not want to buy one. Just thinking out loud here....:cool:

+1 ...I generally drive rental cars gently but I've been in a few that felt like they had been ridden hard and put away wet. We recently rented a car in Dallas... it was night time when we arrived, the car was black and it had been raining. The following morning revealed we had missed a large buttprint (dent) right in the middle of the roof. Fortunately, nobody said anything when we returned it.

I tend to wash my hands everytime I get out of a rental car. My advice is this: while perhaps a rental car is a good deal financially, I would look it over REALLY close and then go spend a decent amount of money of a good detailing and disinfection...

onewhippedpuppy 12-18-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95avblm3 (Post 7157594)
+1 ...I generally drive rental cars gently but I've been in a few that felt like they had been ridden hard and put away wet. We recently rented a car in Dallas... it was night time when we arrived, the car was black and it had been raining. The following morning revealed we had missed a large buttprint (dent) right in the middle of the roof. Fortunately, nobody said anything when we returned it.

I tend to wash my hands everytime I get out of a rental car. My advice is this: while perhaps a rental car is a good deal financially, I would look it over REALLY close and then go spend a decent amount of money of a good detailing and disinfection...

I have many, many stories. Given the right gravel road, you can get really good air in a Dodge Journey.

gprsh924 12-18-2012 12:05 PM

The vast majority of rental drivers drive them like any other car: poorly but slowly.

Eric arranged the purchase of a rental return Mazda 3 for me. It's been great these first couple of thousand of miles and is in no better or worse condition than any thee 30k mile car. I plan on posting a thread on it later today.

fred cook 12-18-2012 04:21 PM

Replacement vehicle..........
 
If she likes driving the SUV, get a new Explorer. My son has a 2013 model and loves it. If she would like a sedan, take a look at the new Ford Fusion or Taurus. I got my wife a 2013 Taurus Limited a few months ago and it is a great car. If the new Fusion had been out then, it would have been a difficult choice between the Fusion and Taurus.

Cajundaddy 12-18-2012 05:09 PM

Whatever you do, never let her drive a Lexus RX 330. You will never get her out of it. My wife is on her second RX and absolutely loves that car (sold the 1999 to our daughter with 240K and it still looks and runs like new) . Available with FWD or 4WD. I call it the mountain snow capable leather couch with wheels.

Tobra 12-18-2012 06:22 PM

I know a couple people with the Lexus you describe. They were driven until they wore out, then traded in on a second one.

apriliaguy 12-18-2012 07:36 PM

We just got a dodge journey. Its roomy. Good pep. Awd. Got that sensor key thing. Nice sport ute for the money. Will check back in two yrs for update

aigel 12-18-2012 07:49 PM

There are 3 ways to drive cars

Drive it like you own it
Drive it like you stole it
Drive it like you rented it

:)

Needless to say, I am in the "don't buy a rental car" camp. I have had friends rent a car for a large road trip, often 15k miles. No oil changes.

G


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