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KFC911 12-20-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 7161891)
Yes, this would be in the same company, but a different business unit. So it's more like switching deck chairs on the Titanic.

Think "lifeboat"...you need to pick a lifeboat that's on the lower side of the ship. Those can be lowered into the water while those on the upper side are hung out to dry. It's sad to see what's become of what was once a great company...good luck!

john70t 12-20-2012 12:50 PM

It sounds like you have a mid-grade (easy) position now, in a company with an uncertain future.

Tech is always changing, and the truly satisfied people are in the boardroom or retired in Borneo...

In purely psychological terms: Which would make you happy "later on" in life?
1). Do you want a secure but mediocre position for right now, or an opportunity to learn and mess around with new equipment?
2). Are you hungry?

scottmandue 12-20-2012 01:13 PM

Don't know where you are at in your game plan... but if you are in the second half... or last quarter...

If like me you are in the last quarter... hard to beat security and not being hassled as you play out the end game.

YMMV

kanadary 12-20-2012 01:30 PM

with the same pay and a lower grade, you may be at the top of that grades salary range. don't expect much increases each year as all the others in that grade have to catch up. your co may be different but that's how i see it in the one i'm at.

asphaltgambler 12-20-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 7161626)
As a rule of thumb, unless I am out of work, I would not take a lower title/pay grade. Even if the salary is the same, it could be viewed as a step backwards, and could be a challenge to move up.

How relevant are the new skills? Will they take you to the next level?

Could you go back to the other position if things didn't work out?

Sometimes the best evil is the evil you know.

This is the best reply and advice I've seen here concerning this subject..........and there are people here that I consider very knowledgeable.

KFC911 12-20-2012 02:46 PM

His current dept is gonna be outsourced :(. I've navigated the IT waters in huge corporations for many years before I retired...sometimes it pays to see the "writing on the wall"...jmho.

Porsche-O-Phile 12-20-2012 03:34 PM

Stay put, keep looking. Build your skills. It's just a paycheck from the sound of it so time to look at moving on, just not for the offer you have on the table - lower position? Never.

widebody911 12-20-2012 03:41 PM

Ok, so my gut feeling is to stay put for now. We have a couple of big projects coming up, which will give me some new skills I could carry forward and use later.

Thanks!

KFC911 12-20-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Porsche-O-Phile (Post 7162197)
Stay put, keep looking. Build your skills. It's just a paycheck from the sound of it so time to look at moving on, just not for the offer you have on the table - lower position? Never.

I'm not trying to come across as a "know it all"...just throwing ideas out there for Thom to consider. He's staying with the same corp (which has been grossly mismanaged these past few years) for the same pay. His current dept will not be around much longer based upon what he's posted (i.e. a fraction of it's former size with management on another continent :(). THIS is his opportunity to build his skills while doing just as you suggest. Lower position...what is that? I've left positions where I had a fancy title (AVP/Principal)...only thing that mattered to me was the bottom line...how much are you going to compensate me? I know what Thom does...I'm sure he's good at it, but it can be done just as easily from India for a fraction of he makes. YMMV...

KFC911 12-20-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 7162210)
Ok, so my gut feeling is to stay put for now. We have a couple of big projects coming up, which will give me some new skills I could carry forward and use later.

Thanks!

You're going to be just fine Thom...no matter what happens. Good luck!

Shadetree930 12-20-2012 04:19 PM

Stay

cantdrv55 12-20-2012 06:15 PM

Any hot chicks at the other place?

azasadny 12-20-2012 06:35 PM

This!
 
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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 7161690)
What does your wife think?

This!!!

widebody911 12-20-2012 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cantdrv55 (Post 7162533)
Any hot chicks at the other place?

Funny you should mention that; the other group is right next to where all of the college interns and the fresh-out-of-college people sit, so to answer your question, yes.

widebody911 12-20-2012 07:05 PM

My wife doesn't understand the differences between the two jobs to point me one way or the other.

In either case, I talked to the other manager today and turned it down. He told me if it hits the fan where I'm @ now, he'll see if he can find a lifeboat for me.

Hugh R 12-20-2012 07:23 PM

Good Plan.


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