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 Tuner/Pre-amp as this appears to be the season for stereo questions I want to post this before the end of 2012... I am looking for a good tuner/pre unit for a 2nd stereo setup (master bedroom downstairs) best quality I can get for ~~ $400 or less and must have a remote thx | 
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 A tuner/pre?  Good luck.  They were never that popular & tuner sales have plummeted.  Look at a net player with a remote & use internet radio or one of the music services or stream etc. Ian | 
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 ok, then - how about a receiver and I then sell my old nad amp? doesn't Cambridge Audio make a small receiver? BTW - it has to drive my small epos speakers | 
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 Dsng.  if you could do w/o a remote I'd say either an old Nakamichi 630 or an Advent 300 (decouple the amp).  Both great little units and very cheap these days. | 
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 $1199 retail . . . so well out of your budget.  We have a cheaper one coming but even it will be $900 retail.  For what you want to spend, hit craigslist for something with a remote. Like this one Pioneer Elite Ian | 
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 you think Pioneer has better sound quality than Denon? - I see the Cambridge Audio - Sonata all over the place for $500?? | 
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 As just a tuner/pre it is a toss up.  As an amplifier, it would be better, I believe. Ian | 
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 Reccomended Best bang for buck in that price range (maybe a little more) is Peachtree Audio by far. All of their components are countertop/desktop do-it-all wonders that have won innumerable awards worldwide. They are also for sale at your local Best Buy. | 
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 I am not an "audiophile" but I have been a musician for a bunch of decades and know what I like sound-wise.  I just did this.  Went to Goodwill and found a sweet receiver for $40.  Sounds great.  Go ahead and dis me but I am $360 ahead of your budget.  For a part time rig, it does just fine. Just another opinion. Larry | 
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 Randy What are you using the unit for? I assume you have an amplifier? One thing to bear in mind buying used, is to make sure it has pre outs. Ian | 
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 for a 2nd stereo setup (master bedroom downstairs); must have a remote I have an old NAD amp already that is no longer used. thoughts re the Cambridge Audio - Sonata? it's $500 - worth it maybe? | 
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 Here's your problem.  You can't get the signal from a Sonata (for example) to your NAD amp because it lacks a preamplifier output.  It is rare for a 2 channel receiver to have a preamp out.  A lot of 5.1/7.1 receivers do have line level outputs, so consumers can use separate power amps for some of the channels. Ian | 
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 Webb, Look at Yamaha. The R-S 500 is a clean and simple receiver with quality components and sells in your price range. Only the features you need without all the nutty 5.1 stuff. It does have a pre-out so you could use the NAD but the onboard Yamaha amp is pretty clean. I own a pair of older versions of these and they have served me well. Give it a listen and trust your ears. Amazon.com: Yamaha R-S500BL Natural Sound Stereo Receiver (Black): Electronics | 
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 Randy, I've sought the same thing. Just get a good receiver with line level out. You're gonna have amps sitting there, but these things have gotten so cheap, you wont care. Got a promo email today on the Harman Kardon AVR1700 marked down from $499 to $199 -- as an example. | 
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 What about this? Arcam Alpha 9 Preamplifier | Solid state | Conway, 72034 | AudiogoN - The High-end Audio Community I can't say I know what the difference is between a pre-amp tuner and a receiver. | 
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 A Tuner Pre Amp needs an Amp to make sound. A Tuner is a component for a Pre Amp and Amp. As are Turn Tables, CD Players, tape recorders etc. | 
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 then I can sell the NAD amp... | 
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 14s?  No typical receiver would do well with those.  The darker character of the NAD would suit them . . . hmmm.  Back to the used AV receiver with pre-outs. Ian | 
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 no no - they are els-3 speakers - small acoustic suspension design | 
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