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Jim Bremner 01-08-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannonball996 (Post 7196859)
I dont hire anyone full time, I dont hire anyone over 40.

I'm not sure that I would have that in print!

flatbutt 01-08-2013 03:11 PM

I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

red-beard 01-08-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 7196893)
I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

Hair club for men? SmileWavy

sammyg2 01-08-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 7196892)
I'm not sure that I would have that in print!

Zackly. In the eyes of the law that's no different than saying "I don't hire anyone who's skin color is _________".

sammyg2 01-08-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 7196752)
At age 35 I was told that "We hired X guy becouse he's younger and cooler than you"

Sadly I'm 46 and shutting down my biz and and looking for work when in the past I would turn down offers 3-4 times a year.

Anyone need a purchasing agent or Sales rep in So Cal?

Jim

I'll keep my ears open, there's a possibility something on the purchasing side might open up here in the next year or two.

jyl 01-08-2013 03:57 PM

There is no question that after 40 y/o or so, your age becomes a negative factor in the eyes of potential employers in many, although not all, fields and positions. The lower-level the position, the greater the risk of this.

I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.

RWebb 01-08-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 7196893)
I'm 60, have a Baccalaureate in Chemistry, 35 years experience, professional certification in Regulatory Affairs, have had as many as 40 direct reports and a monthly budget of more than $750K. And yet I can't get the Directors title. ALL of the Directors in my dept. are at least 15 years younger than me.

You tell me.

Because they have MBAs, not Chemistry degrees.

Jim Bremner 01-08-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7196960)
I'll keep my ears open, there's a possibility something on the purchasing side might open up here in the next year or two.

Sammy!

Thank you!

Right now I have 3 soft offers for 3-6 months out. Too bad I just moved into a new house last year and spent some good money making it work for my wife.

Care to pm me some details?

scottmandue 01-08-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 7196954)
Zackly. In the eyes of the law that's no different than saying "I don't hire anyone who's skin color is _________".

Kinda funny huh (not funny ha ha)?

We have a list as long as your arm of things we can't discriminate against... but age apparently is not on the list. :mad:

Jim Sims 01-08-2013 04:39 PM

Age Discrimination

It appears a business with fewer than 20 employees is exempt unless there is a more strict state law.

cantdrv55 01-08-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanPizzle (Post 7196651)
Youth may have energy, but we have experience, rolodex's and treachery on our side.

I love this

cantdrv55 01-08-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 7196994)
There is no question that after 40 y/o or so, your age becomes a negative factor in the eyes of potential employers in many, although not all, fields and positions. The lower-level the position, the greater the risk of this.

I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.

I was actually thinking of coloring the gray out. Not much I can do about the receding hairline though. Another reason why I signed up for the 2013 weight loss thread.

cantdrv55 01-08-2013 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 7196697)

if it happens..teach them "rageism"!

Lol

jyl 01-08-2013 09:14 PM

I get a color rinse, or color blend, not sure what its called, with my hair cut.

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I've read this is one reason why men are (supposedly) increasingly using hair coloring, cosmetics, facial aesthetics - because how old you look and sound and act makes a big difference. Being fit and trim is (supposedly) a greater focus for the same reason. I say (supposedly) because I'm reading this in popular press, not necessarily high-credibility sources.</div>
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genrex 01-08-2013 09:25 PM

My girlfriend calls it a "rinse." Looks great. She gets one when she gets her hair cut, and between haircuts she does it herself at home (buys the box at Rite Aid drugstore).

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Bill Douglas 01-08-2013 09:50 PM

My story [img]reallyfingsadface[/img]...

I'm 53 now and about seven years ago I got layed off from my computer tech job. I had between 20 and 30 job interviews but no joy. And what really annoyed me was they would say "Actually... You were our number two. We really liked you but..." or "You interviewed well but we were surprised by the high caliber or the applicants and..." AND grrr, I even had one at a bank I worked for years ago and the boss of the area was a "school boy" I hired. Cheeky prick didn't even send me a letter to say no. My GF was going nuts at me saying to get a job stocking shelves at Bunnings (same as Home Depot) but why would they hire me when there are hundreds of 18 to 22 year old dying to get the job.

I survived by putting on a suit at lunchtime, pretending to have a job, and going into my old branch of the bank and taking out big loans. We would chat about Unilever (where I used to work) and "how's Michael, how's Sue." etc while I was sweating bullets thinking I might be found out. I had to sign forms that said "Is there any reason why you don't fit the loan criteria" etc. Phew I owed the bank nearly a million dollars and had no job, and was borrowing more.

tevake 01-08-2013 10:25 PM

Bill I'm not sure weather to be laughing or crying for you bro, say you were joking.
Or we may have to start gathering funds for your bankers.

Cheers Richard

Bill Douglas 01-08-2013 10:30 PM

Not joking. It was a bit scary :eek:

tevake 01-08-2013 10:56 PM

WOW! Bill, I went off think of you sitting you that chair of yours, looking out the window at the break out front (knowing you should be out there chasing a few) but really working on a screen play for American TV, titled America, the lost dream or something like that.
On the other hand WOW:eek: glad you got through it OK.

Cheers Richard

Bill Douglas 01-08-2013 11:40 PM

LOL, thanks Richard. I got through it just fine. Umm, I still haven't got a job though (self employed renovating).

I've got a few waves over the last month. Plus a lot of stand up paddleboarding. I even paddle boarded down a river. Please note: I don't recommend this and are still sore a month later hehe.

Here's me taking a young buddy Lauren for a paddle in Nelson.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1357720773.jpg


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