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speeder 01-12-2013 09:11 PM

Man, you've been reading my mail. I've referred to him as a juvenile talent many times, most recently in a heated Facebook discussion about Django with some black folks in the industry who are friends.

He is a genius in the sense defined by Beckett after the opening night of "Waiting for Godot". The short version is that any response is an indication of success, even if people think it sucked. Failure is when no one sees your film and no one is talking about it.

Baz 01-04-2014 05:55 PM

It's on TNT again right now - still in the tavern - before the bullets start flying - one of my favourite scenes....

:)

strupgolf 01-04-2014 06:00 PM

I was going through wally, world before christmas and saw this movie for 5 bucks, had to buy it. Great acting by the german ss guy.

recycled sixtie 01-04-2014 06:11 PM

It's a little far fetched but it's good entertainment. Brad Pitt is good too. The Jewish combatants are entertaining. Watched it three times.:)

Baz 01-04-2014 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by matt f (Post 7203479)
Favorite part is red dress and Bowie singing "putting out the fire with.............gasoliiiiiiiine."

That scene just aired, Matt. They splice their segment in with the feature film.

I bought that Bowie album when it came out and remember how much I liked that song.

Cool....

Baz 01-04-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by recycled sixtie (Post 7840249)
It's a little far fetched but it's good entertainment. Brad Pitt is good too. The Jewish combatants are entertaining. Watched it three times.:)

Aldo. Great character...and characterture!

DanielDudley 01-05-2014 04:11 AM

Tarantino usually has a point to his films, even if it is basic or simple, like a long joke with a punch line.

In this case, The Nazis are cultured, witty, intelligent and urbane. Suave, even. By contrast, the Americans are hicks, farm boys, crude, uncultured and almost uneducated. Both sides are willing to commit acts of atrocity, and yet, the punchline is that the ones who appear to be crude hicks, in fact display a superior sense of morality, justice and restraint. They exercise self imposed moral limits, when in fact, it is the cultured Germans who are depraved.

So it isn't just a comic book fairy tale if you watch movies for more than entertainment. It is a long story leading up to a punch line. If you watch Kill Bill to the end of the second movie, you will see that in this instance, he actually gives you the punchline in writing.

It may be very basic stuff, but it is still an exercise in conceptual interpretation that a great many people miss.

recycled sixtie 01-05-2014 06:22 AM

Interesting perspective Daniel. These kind of movies about WW2 come across as somewhat surreal but it gets its point across. It would be interesting to get a young person's take on this show. This is not much far removed from what the Jewish people thought and hated about the Nazis after WW2.

Back in 1965 and that was 20 years after WW2 I worked for a Jewish farmer north of Toronto . I bought a 1958 VW bug and parked it in front of his farmhouse. I did not make the connection but he objected to it but there was nothing he could do about it.
G.

Laneco 01-05-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by strupgolf (Post 7840231)
.... Great acting by the german ss guy.

Definitely. That fellow also played a major role in Django. But the character in Django is the polar opposite of the SS character.

As for me, I get a kick out of Tarantino films much in the way that I enjoy a good graphic novel. Is the intellectual quality of a good graphic novel the equal of, say, Atlas Shrugged? Well no, of course not. But I'll read and re-read the graphic novels and I've only read Atlas Shrugged once...

angela

1990C4S 01-05-2014 06:39 AM

No comment on Tarantino. But this thread did make me miss Dotore. :(

Steve Carlton 01-05-2014 07:39 AM

I like Tarantino's work. Sure, it's campy, unrealistic, and over-the-top, but it's intended to be. As Angela said, like a graphic novel. Certainly not hack work.

Baz 01-05-2014 07:41 AM

Just noticed it airs again today on TNT at 4:30pm eastern.

At 2pm, same channel, is another good flick..."Road to Perdition". Jude Law, Paul Newman, Tom Hanks.

Jim Richards 01-05-2014 07:55 AM

Saw it once...not interested in seeing it again.

sc_rufctr 01-05-2014 05:11 PM

It's not his best movie but certainly entertaining. And I doubt there's much chance of people thinking this is anything near what actually happened during WW2.
The Bear Jew scene was surprising to say the least. A complete manipulation of the audience but that's not unique to Quentin's movies.

However the Cinema scene was just ridiculous. Had the Third Reich's leadership been at a Movie theater for real you wouldn't be able to get anywhere near the theater let alone get inside and move around with ease.
I'd imagine an entire German Army (30,000 + soldiers) protecting the theater and surrounding area.

His best movie was Pulp Fiction. That movie, like it or not changed everything in Hollywood.
The legendary "Pawn Shop scene" will never be equaled IMO. The surprise and unexpected outcome showed his absolute brilliance.

"Z is dead" ;)

Baz 01-05-2014 05:17 PM

I went to the first showing (premier) when Pulp Fiction came out.

Then I saw it again the next night.

Great movie.

"Bear Jew" Scene:

[NSFW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVEFCDP4KiM

matt f 01-05-2014 05:48 PM

Baz, thanks for the earlier heads up.
Watched both IB's and R to P today in between football games.
Actually watched R to P at 2:30-5a today. Couldn't sleep.

intakexhaust 01-05-2014 05:56 PM

When you hear its a Tarantino flick wouldn't one expect the unexpected? I've enjoyed all his movies. For this flick and the naysayers questioning accuracy to history... of course not. I find it hard to believe anyone would even question it. Deranged or sick as it may be, its entertainment, an illusion... not a documentary LOL. Me liked the basterds' and that scalp lovin' half injun' Lt. Aldo.

Christoph Waltz cracked me up. Also, thought I spotted a scene with Mike Meyers at a British intel meeting. Good soundtrack.

Baz 01-05-2014 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt f (Post 7841829)
Baz, thanks for the earlier heads up.
Watched both IB's and R to P today in between football games.
Actually watched R to P at 2:30-5a today. Couldn't sleep.

Hey Matt - you're welcome! Took me a while to get around to watching R to P but once I did I realized what I was missing. Good movie.

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Originally Posted by intakexhaust (Post 7841847)
---snip---Also, thought I spotted a scene with Mike Meyers at a British intel meeting. Good soundtrack.

Yes.....here it is......

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Baz 01-05-2014 06:32 PM

This is my favourite scene in the movie.....

<iframe width="853" height="480" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/XWgHiUZYRSo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cockerpunk 01-05-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dottore (Post 7203800)
I have to agree with Denis. Inglorious Basterds started out strong — that opening scene at the farmhouse was brilliant — but soon devolved into bad farce. It could have been a great movie if Tarantino could have kept his tendency for bombast and buffoonery in check. But he couldn't. As a result it is a very immature and cartoonish film.

on the contrary, i find it to be one of his best.

Tarantino is mocking his audience in the best possible way. everyone who hated it, seems to hate it because the lack of heroic "bear jew" scenes and the like. however, this is the entire point of the movie, we are the audience in the theater, the folks wanting more "bear jew" action are the ones cheering on the absurd nazi propaganda film. we want to see the bear jew kill all the nazis.

its a very good film, one of tarantino's best IMO. and i am not much of a tarantino fan.


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