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126coupe 01-20-2013 08:09 AM

Country Time Motor Meltdown
 
As I suspected, a broken crank up by the snout. Most parts look like they survived the mayhemhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1358701596.jpg
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kaisen 01-20-2013 08:12 AM

Very unusual place for a crank to break. Like one in a million

I'd use a different manufacturer's billet this time around. If it was Crower last time, pick someone else this time.....

tevake 01-20-2013 08:14 AM

What a bad break, you going to be able to save the block?
Wonder what caused it to break there?
Any idea of the cost for a short block?

Cheers Richard

pavulon 01-20-2013 08:15 AM

was this an externally balanced motor?

kaisen 01-20-2013 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 7219118)
was this an externally balanced motor?

All small block Fords started life externally balanced

tevake 01-20-2013 08:24 AM

Does a race motor like that start with a factory stock block? Or is there race prep that is done on the block?

Cheers Richard

126coupe 01-20-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7219113)
Very unusual place for a crank to break. Like one in a million

I'd use a different manufacturer's billet this time around. If it was Crower last time, pick someone else this time.....

I believe this was a forged crank, I am taking it down to Crower and they are making me a billet crank $$$$

126coupe 01-20-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tevake (Post 7219116)
What a bad break, you going to be able to save the block?
Wonder what caused it to break there?
Any idea of the cost for a short block?

Cheers Richard

Block is fine, I am suspecting the balancer may have failed first

126coupe 01-20-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tevake (Post 7219135)
Does a race motor like that start with a factory stock block? Or is there race prep that is done on the block?

Cheers Richard

This is a ford racing block it is stamped on the block, lots of race prep, mainly windage and prep for the dry sump system.

pavulon 01-20-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7219122)
All small block Fords started life externally balanced

Ok. But that doesn't make this an externally balanced motor. I'd wonder about bad harmonics in this crank failure.

kaisen 01-20-2013 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavulon (Post 7219191)
Ok. But that doesn't make this an externally balanced motor. I'd wonder about bad harmonics in this crank failure.

I'd agree that this was a harmonic balance failure

Looking at the balancer itself, it doesn't appear to have the 28oz counterweight so it appears to be internally balanced.

The balancer itself is a ATI Super Damper, which is a mechanical ring damper. It may have failed.

Consider going to a Fluidampr next time. They don't fail, and don't need to be serviced or rebuilt

126coupe 01-20-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaisen (Post 7219368)
I'd agree that this was a harmonic balance failure

Looking at the balancer itself, it doesn't appear to have the 28oz counterweight so it appears to be internally balanced.

The balancer itself is a ATI Super Damper, which is a mechanical ring damper. It may have failed.

Consider going to a Fluidampr next time. They don't fail, and don't need to be serviced or rebuilt

I believe ATI's are a good product, I did not know how many miles/hours were on this one.? The amount of hours I will run this dampener will break down to once a season. Nascar rebuilds after every race. I will check out Fluidampr also


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