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motion 01-25-2013 09:49 AM

Any ideas on how this can be built?
 
Approximately 18' long by 30" wide platform to raise 3 motorcycles off of the garage floor. Placed along a garage wall. Platform for bikes is diamond plate. I'm thinking a motor that raises and lowers the platform via rollers in channels. I've never welded, but I'm sure I could learn. Platform would need to be raised/lowered to retrieve bikes a few times a year. Any ideas on how to pull this off?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359139714.jpg

oldE 01-25-2013 09:56 AM

I'd use a chain drive garage door opener to turn a pinion geared into the four posts to raise your channel.

The pinion would be rod, in bearings with five gears on it, one for each post and one to take the drive from the motor.

Have fun.
Les

vash 01-25-2013 10:01 AM

does it have to be mechanical? can you make the top level solid..like bunk beds for the bikes?

i mean use a ramp section to roll the bike up stairs..maybe at 40" tall, the ramp would too long. hmmm. nice idea. if the bikes can face towards the wall, the ramp can run into the garage and be long enough..so they are not ridiculouly steep. just a thought.

GWN7 01-25-2013 10:02 AM

You would want each section to lift separately or you will have to move everything from under it to get one bike down. Basicly 3 small 4 post lifts.

vash 01-25-2013 10:03 AM

thinking some more..why not make "pigeon holes" for the bikes and then lift them into place with a motorcycle lift table?

GWN7 01-25-2013 10:08 AM

The other way to do it would be to make the stand (s) non moveable and use a overhead lift to place the first bike in the center and then roll it either left or right for storage.

motion 01-25-2013 10:11 AM

Maybe I could just modify something like this. Basically make it narrower.

Torin Big Red Portable 4-Post Lift — 7000-Lb. Capacity, Model# N4QJY3.0C | Four-Post Lifts| Northern Tool + Equipment

GWN7 01-25-2013 10:12 AM

Overhead crane

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359141136.jpg

krystar 01-25-2013 10:17 AM

i think engineering a powered elevator is going to be more trouble than you're looking for.

why not just use standard warehouse shelves, secure each bike on a pallet and use a forklift?

id10t 01-25-2013 10:23 AM

3 sets of post lifts. Have each bike on a separate pair, that way you can lower one without lowering the others.

GWN7 01-25-2013 10:24 AM

Another way to do it would be to use these: Truck Camper Jacks - Atwood Mobile They can be controlled with a remote. Make the center section the moveable section and then roll the bike either left or right for storage.

VincentVega 01-25-2013 10:27 AM

Could modify an off the shelf 4 post lift to make it narrow.

Aragorn 01-25-2013 10:52 AM

Maybe make the top level stationary but wide enough to walk on with the bike and get a portable scissor lift drilled for tie downs? That way you can move the bikes to the top level when you want and store the lift when not in use. Looks like portable scissor lifts can go up to around 64 inches.

johnco 01-25-2013 12:11 PM

linear actuators and a custom built frame

GWN7 01-25-2013 12:31 PM

Ran the problem by the afternoon coffee brain trust and one owner of several bikes asked how tall is his garage? He pointed out that to the top of his handle bars is almost 4'. So if you want to stack them you need a minimun of 9' (4' + 4' + height of shelf) and he also pointed out that trying to get a full dressed Harley out from under a 4' tall shelf would be a good way to screw up your back. He suggested you would need a way to roll out the bottom bikes (like a tool box drawer) to access them. Heavy duty roller wheels under the checker plate shelf might make this work.

URY914 01-25-2013 12:44 PM

Buy a small used fork lift. Put the bikes on pallets.

motion 01-25-2013 01:05 PM

I really dont want palettes, forklifts, etc. Looking for a slick solution that compliments a bike collection. Has anyone heard of posts for sale separately that have some type of roller drive mechanism built into them? If I had the posts and a linear actuator like Johnco suggests, I could have a platform fabbed and attached to the posts.

motion 01-25-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GWN7 (Post 7230230)
Ran the problem by the afternoon coffee brain trust and one owner of several bikes asked how tall is his garage? He pointed out that to the top of his handle bars is almost 4'. So if you want to stack them you need a minimun of 9' (4' + 4' + height of shelf) and he also pointed out that trying to get a full dressed Harley out from under a 4' tall shelf would be a good way to screw up your back. He suggested you would need a way to roll out the bottom bikes (like a tool box drawer) to access them. Heavy duty roller wheels under the checker plate shelf might make this work.

My bikes are all fairly lightweight... 300-400lbs each. I could place them on small roller dollies to move them around easily.

kaisen 01-25-2013 01:18 PM

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GWN7 01-25-2013 01:28 PM

How tall is your garage?

Build a frame work out of 2x4's and see if you can get a bike out from underneath with the dollys.

One of the brain trust suggested hang them from the ceiling. Use a cable hoist (2000 lb ele winch) hidden in the rafters (only the winch hook hangs down) and lift them up to the ceiling. You can buy the winches for about $60 on sale. Add reinforcing to the trusses so the roof will handle the extra weight.

You could do it this way for about $400-$500 (3 winches, power converter 120v to 12v, reinforcing and fancy winch hook covers)

Tim Hancock 01-25-2013 01:42 PM

I am building a mezzanine sometime in the near future and will be storing motorcycles, snowmobiles, etc up there. I have been contemplating a lift myself and looked at the type Kaisen posted but decided it was too much work to duplicate and they cost too much for my taste. I have been considering a cable operated lifting gizmo/platform using a Harbor Freight electric winch to power it. It will likely consist of two long drums made of pipe that will have each have a section of cable near each end. I will drive the drums using roller chain powered by the cheap winch.

I also briefly considered finding an old used fork lift mast section and mounting it to my wall at the end of the mezzanine. I would build a flat platform and mount it to the forks. I would then roll the bike onto the platform then raise the contraption using a hydraulic power source from a cheap car lift. Once the platform was raised flush with my mezzanine, I would roll the bike onto the overhead storage unit.

motion 01-25-2013 01:44 PM

Garage is 9' tall. Bikes are approx 4'0" tall, so should be just enough for bikes stacked.

Eric, I did see those. Slick, but $2400 each!

I think the solutions is a freestanding 4 post lift in the middle of the garage, between the 2 doors. I have about 8' of width there, so it could be placed to not encroach on the garage doors. I could put 4 bikes up top, and 4 below. My main objective is to be able to see the bikes, so this would be a good solution.

johnco 01-25-2013 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 7230289)
I really dont want palettes, forklifts, etc. Looking for a slick solution that compliments a bike collection. Has anyone heard of posts for sale separately that have some type of roller drive mechanism built into them? If I had the posts and a linear actuator like Johnco suggests, I could have a platform fabbed and attached to the posts.

I've got several designs in my head but it's hard for me to describe. I'd either use box tubing or channel iron frame and uprights with platform of box tubing with large sealed bearings bolted thru frame riding on uprights. it's easier for me to visualize than describe

kaisen 01-25-2013 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motion (Post 7230372)
Eric, I did see those. Slick, but $2400 each!

Well, I think you could fabricate something similar as a one-length, three-bike deal. The Loft-It unit is rated to 1200 pounds. If your three bikes weigh 1200 pounds, then why not? 80% of the weight is distributed to the floor, and 20% to the wall. It's just an electric motor with a screw drive and two stainless braided cables. No reason you couldn't build something similar. Or build three of them that share middle uprights.

In any event, the cantilevered from the wall option is the best.

Jim Bremner 01-25-2013 02:06 PM

Kaisens loft it gives you the idea on how to do it. add in Jack Olsens fold out work benchs and a garage door opener motor to drive it. make it so it folds flush to your wall for space if you need it.


I would find some 8" wide C chanel and have cables that hold the bike on a slight angle from the wall \l to gain more room

kaisen 01-25-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Bremner (Post 7230414)
Kaisens loft it gives you the idea on how to do it. add in Jack Olsens fold out work benchs and a garage door opener motor to drive it. make it so it folds flush to your wall for space if you need it.


I would find some 8" wide C chanel and have cables that hold the bike on a slight angle from the wall \l to gain more room

Those Loft-Its fold flat to the wall, like Jack's tables. They just have screw drives to lift the whole thing vertically as well. I think they're a great idea if you could figure out how to build them.

Jim Bremner 01-25-2013 02:11 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1359155506.jpg

kaisen 01-25-2013 02:26 PM

Why not something like this but instead of a receiver hitch, just mounted into a channel that's lifted by a linear actuator, screw-drive, chain-drive (ala garage door opener), or cable with remote winch?

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachme...ddy-hauler.jpg


Just lift it up the wall. Kinda like the Loft-it without the platform or second upright.

911boost 01-25-2013 02:29 PM

Richard, when I bought my 4 post lift one of the options was a diamond plate section that would enable the lift to be used to store motorcycles/atv's etc. You could easily store three bikes parked at a 45 degree angle on my lift.

Also if you have two garage doors you could also raise one of them closer to the ceiling so that you wouldn't have to put the lift in the middle of the garage. Closed the doors would still look the same. My lift is currently on the single door side of my three car garage.

Bill

kaisen 01-25-2013 02:33 PM

This one is only $1500ish

www.garagecargolift.com

http://www.garagecargolift.com/Lifttires1300.BMP

greglepore 01-25-2013 02:34 PM

FWIW, moving 4 lower bikes every time you need to get to an upper would get to be old, I'd want the lower ones on dolly's...

Edit:Eric and I posted over each other-I like his solution

GWN7 01-25-2013 03:29 PM

Four cables attached to another frame above to which the winch is attached. Lift each bike up and out of the way. You could hide them in the attic if you wanted to. :)

Garage lift - YouTube

Here's another vid showing the support in the attic:

Attic Elevator - YouTube

VincentVega 01-28-2013 08:30 AM

Saw this from Greg Smith, what I was thinking about but off the shelf.

Atlas Pro Floor 9 Plus


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