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sc_rufctr 02-19-2013 02:22 PM

Has Lance tainted everything???
 
I can't help but feel that the actions of Lance Armstrong have tainted just about every elite athlete or event.

So for instance, when I see "someone" like Hussein Bolt devastate the opposition I can't help but feel there's something fishy going on.
Is Serena Williams "too good"? She dominates and destroys her opposition. I don't think I've ever seen another player do that like she does!

I'm not saying Hussein or Serena are using drugs but there's always that nagging feeling I can't ignore. :confused:

I'll get past it but still you have to ask yourself the question. How many elite athletes active right now or from the past have got away with using performance enhancing drugs?

When Ben Johnson got caught it basically "spoilt" those particular Olympics and he paid for that big time.

There's a major story right now in Australia about wide spread drug use at the top levels of sport of our athletes.
There's a Government sponsored investigation going on and there's talk of organised crime involvement.

red-beard 02-19-2013 02:42 PM

If only Lance had followed this advice:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1361317330.jpg

plumb4u2 02-19-2013 02:59 PM

HA, just wait until they start testing NFL players.....lol

tctnd 02-19-2013 03:23 PM

Lance is the current poster boy but he can hardly be accused of "tainting" something that's already thoroughly corrupt.

jyl 02-19-2013 03:34 PM

That some people will cheat to win - shouldn't be a surprise to us, and shouldn't diminish our appreciation of the others.

That some sports were so poorly governed, that the top finisher for a decade cheated, his whole team cheated, the next five or ten finishers cheated, maybe half of the peloton would have cheated if they'd had the means or access, and all this went on under the firmly pinched nose of the sport's governing body, and had to be unearthed by outsiders e.g. French police (Festina), USADA (Armstrong), while the UCI actually gave doping cyclists briefings on how the testing - programs would be conducted - that *should* be a surprise to us.

One at a time, each sport should be torn down and rebuilt, from a doping perspective. I don't need absolute certainty that an event is dope-free, a very high probability is enough. That is as good or better than you get on anything in life.

Evans, Marv 02-19-2013 03:42 PM

I think this is sort of an eye into the world we live in. I suspect nowdays everything is tainted in some way: sports = drugs & fixing outcomes; banking - selling products bad for the investor & doing things to increase your profits over the good of investors, politics - what can't you say about that; corporations - lying about their operations, cooking the books on taxes, etc.; stock market - insider trading, etc.; students - cheating on exams; schools - cooking the books on test results and so on , & so on. Think of it & you won't be surprised at athlets using performance enhancing drugs.

Tom '74 911 02-19-2013 03:46 PM

Unfortunately, what Marv said....

Joeaksa 02-19-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tctnd (Post 7283446)
Lance is the current poster boy but he can hardly be accused of "tainting" something that's already thoroughly corrupt.

Bingo! He was not the first nor will be the last...

jcommin 02-19-2013 03:58 PM

He wasn't the first, he won't be the last. What galls me is when atheletes do get caught, the portray themselves as victims. We are very forgiving as a culture. Books, TV appearances, the lecture circuit and other avenues give most a 2nd chance.

I think the only suckers are (us) who support atheles as being 'special'.

JavaBrewer 02-19-2013 04:30 PM

European pro cyclists have been doping for decades. All of them. Lance didn't taint the sport - but he surely and purposefully ruined the lives of many that put their trust in him and/or called him a friend.

stealthn 02-19-2013 04:40 PM

The question should be, is there AY professional sport that the contestants have not used PED at some point in their life.

Sadly it starts younger and younger every year.

lane912 02-19-2013 05:49 PM

^^^
bowling?
billards?
darts?
f class shooting

Gogar 02-19-2013 05:52 PM

you said taint

nynor 02-19-2013 06:47 PM

i've heard that the estimate for olympic records is something on the order of 90% of them were set by athletes that were doping.

Bill Douglas 02-19-2013 07:10 PM

I'm with Red-beard over this.


Cheats are cheats. Nothing else.


Drug of choice - Tacos!

red-beard 02-19-2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 7283874)
I'm with Red-beard over this.


Cheats are cheats. Nothing else.


Drug of choice - Tacos!

This is our cycling group in Houston

bicycle, Tour de Taco Home

Bill Douglas 02-19-2013 07:19 PM

I love it.

It's a shame we don't live in the same town. My GF would love to cycle with you guys. She did half of the big cycle race they have around here called the Taupo Challenge. And she said "Stuff everyone else; I'm stopping halfway 'round and having a picnic."

KFC911 02-19-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv (Post 7283486)
I think this is sort of an eye into the world we live in. I suspect nowdays everything is tainted in some way: sports = drugs & fixing outcomes; banking - selling products bad for the investor & doing things to increase your profits over the good of investors, politics - what can't you say about that; corporations - lying about their operations, cooking the books on taxes, etc.; stock market - insider trading, etc.; students - cheating on exams; schools - cooking the books on test results and so on , & so on. Think of it & you won't be surprised at athlets using performance enhancing drugs.

Well stated...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 7283724)
you said taint

And don't forget 'bout them "rock stars"...they've been doping for decades :D

No offense mon...

sc_rufctr 02-19-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gogar (Post 7283724)
you said taint

TAINT

"A trace of a bad or undesirable quality or substance: "the taint of corruption"


He lied for over a decade and never tested positive. What else would you call it?

Noah930 02-19-2013 08:37 PM

Joke must not translate into Aussie...


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