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Originally Posted by BReif61 (Post 7303487)

Sounds like LeMons with a better budget.

I love ALMS and endurance racing in general so don't get me wrong but no thats not what I mean here.
I like the literal win on sunday sell on monday. But not with monte carlos. I mean with cars we all want to see. But cars that are Unaltered performance wise other than tires and removing comfort items and adding cages for safety. Done.
It would help the auto industry in two ways. Race teams buy from the factory, and people will buy the cars that win! I like it.

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Originally Posted by id10t (Post 7303477)

I think an awesome series would be "you've got $50k to spend at any dealership on any car within a 200 mile radius of this track. You must pay sticker price - sales taxes, etc. do not count against your budget. You have 3 weeks to prep the car in any way you see fit - still going against your $50k budget - and you must add the following safety equipment - xxxxxxx - which does not count against your budget".

Make it half reality show, half racing. You'll have guys buying a '78 Camero and trying to trick it out, the rice car racers putting on their fart can mufflers and nitrous in a Civic, I'm sure a few pelicans would just go buy a well sorted 944 (or 911 or 993 or....)

Could be hours of fun - anyone a TV producer that could take this idea and run with it?

The thing is, safety stuff, such as cages, alters the handling of the car. You'd really need to run it bone stock.

Instead of teams buying/building the cars, you'd need the TV show to do it. Buy brand new show room stock models, maybe make it a $15K or $20K budget, and race them that way. Run on tracks that are slow enough, or that have enough run off, to try to minimize the need for extra safety on the cars.

Its crazy how different safety approaches are on race cars vs road cars. This long time schism to account for people who won't put on seat belts, makes stock car racing quite difficult to pull off. A racing seat and racing belts require a harness bar - car structure mod, so immediately, you aren't racing a stock car.

"Theres no such thing as stock about a stock car" is I think I quote from back in the day. Teams will find ways to get an edge.

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Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 7303396)

So, you'r saying that a nascar driver would just go along with making everyone think his car was slower than reality if it were not? Nascar cup cars weigh around 3400lb with an average driver. That mclaren weighs at least 400lb less fully lit. Including ac and all the comfy amenities a 200k plus car must have to sell it.
I believe it was that close but who knows.
My point is that this nascar crap is stupid. I know I know, I must be the only one that thinks this......
Also my point is to say that we could have much more diversity using close to off the shelf cars, in a compitition to see who can make a better car that we can buy.

NASCAR is rediculous. I realize it's fun for most the country to see their favorite candy or paint haul ass in a circle. But I don't get it which supprises no one that knows me. SmileWavy

The NASCAR is big, and is designed around safety and aerodynamics that allow a car to run close and make passes without F1 Gimmicks lie DRS. So a smaller more aerodynamic super car aught to out run it...

As far as engines go, those NASCAR engines are quite impressive.

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Originally Posted by TechnoViking (Post 7303238)

I saw that Top Gear US episode and I call total BS that the "race" would have been close at all. The tube-frame NASCAR car with 400 more HP could run at whatever weight it wanted. And of course there was no mention of what either car weighed.

The race car would trounce the street car, of course, but getting lapped does not make for a nail-biting TV segment.

Bingo!

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 7303599)

As far as engines go, those NASCAR engines are quite impressive.

No kidding. I know someone who works at TRD on their Nascar engine program. The stories he tells me of how much work goes into 1/4 HP.... just amazing.

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Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 7303599)

It was on the oval section that the NASCAR shines. Thats the only reason I feel the NASCAR had a chance. And BTW the racecar won.....On the oval section is where the end was.

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Originally Posted by quattrorunner (Post 7303620)

And BTW the racecar won.....

Thanks to the miracle of editing, the race was close. We have no way of knowing what happened, but that 'race' was about as fake as a street vendors' Rolex.

Reality TV is not real, no matter what the networks want you to believe.

$h!t, for that matter, as far as I'm concerned, the winner of every NASCAR race could just as easily be predetermined weeks in advance in an attempt to 'keep things exciting'

As to the bone stock run what-you-brung race series? It just might work, if there weren't two out-of-work lawyers on every street corner. But even then, whatever cream rose to the top, that's what everyone would end up with, so you'd have a spec (fill in the car name here) series.

I might be an idiot, but I believed it. Still do but thats probably because I choose to believe it.:rolleyes: