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72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 03:32 PM

Pool tables...Pelican trust help
 
I've been working on my basement and I'm at a moment of indecision.

I have a pool table, which was a fraternity house rescue and free. But there is no stone or slatron. It is not cosmetically in great shape but it is all wood and is very level. Money is an object, but that's why I have a free table in my basement.

But what do I do? Buy a set of slate? Go with an alternative? Don't waste my time with it and dump it? Turn it into a craft or table tennis station?

-4 x 8 foot
-rails in decent shape
-pattern for holes perhaps standard, but what if it is not?
-wood frame, but not antique or sentimental.

See pics.



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landrover88 03-02-2013 04:00 PM

Dude I got your slate....


LOL I do have 4x8 slate set on wood frames in my garage.

VINMAN 03-02-2013 04:12 PM

I would just pick up a new slate and recover it. Looks like a good table. Any idea of the brand?

landrover88 03-02-2013 04:20 PM

My set is three pieces holes under rails to fasten to frame.

Then i think they used some sort of plaster stuff to level the cracks pretty simple.

72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by landrover88 (Post 7305646)
Dude I got your slate....


LOL I do have 4x8 slate set on wood frames in my garage.

I have no idea on the brand. What are you using your slate for, pool table?

landrover88 03-02-2013 04:34 PM

yes it is from a brunswick table from about 1930

72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 04:55 PM

I was just on another site which said a replacement slate requires sending all rails in so they can custom fit the stone. I guess there is nothing further to do other than shell out the dough.

imcarthur 03-02-2013 05:08 PM

I miss having a pool table. Even a warped POS is fun. My brother & I talked my parents into buying a cheap one when I was about 15. Good memories. :D Carry on.

Ian

herr_oberst 03-02-2013 06:21 PM

How much space are you going to have between the wall and the table? Ideally, you want up to 58" of stick space, so I hear. 36" at a minimum. So I hear.

pwd72s 03-02-2013 06:23 PM

I notice there is a pool table mechanic's directory at the top of the page here.
Talk To A Mechanic - AzBilliards Forums

Frankly, no slate..no clue about the brand? I'd definitely consult a pro...it might be a better move to buy a new table. You can buy a new Valley bar table for around a grand...The rails look like an Olhausen to me, but don't take that as gospel. Olhausen kind of an "entry level" brand...so looks to me like you have a 944 of pool tables there. One with a bad engine and 200,000 miles on all other components.

72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 7305845)
How much space are you going to have between the wall and the table? Ideally, you want up to 58" of stick space, so I hear. 36" at a minimum. So I hear.

Looks like 60" on the long wall and 50" on the short interior stair/closet wall. Good thing to note.

72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7305852)
I notice there is a pool table mechanic's directory at the top of the page here.
Talk To A Mechanic - AzBilliards Forums

Frankly, no slate..no clue about the brand? I'd definitely consult a pro...it might be a better move to buy a new table. You can buy a new Valley bar table for around a grand...The rails look like an Olhausen to me, but don't take that as gospel. Olhausen kind of an "entry level" brand...so looks to me like you have a 944 of pool tables there. One with a bad engine and 200,000 miles on all other components.

Wasser kooled? Yikes! I will do the maths before jumping on that ride.

[EDIT] Great site. Thanks for the link. Sounds like some serious pool guys over there.

pwd72s 03-02-2013 06:46 PM

If 50" wall clearance is the best you can do? Find somebody to give it to...or learn really good cue ball control and always leave your opponent on the rail closest to the wall. ;)

Room size chart here:
http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/helpful_information/room_size_requirements.html

72doug2,2S 03-02-2013 07:33 PM

I don't understand... The only restraint is a width that is 13'-6" and that only exists for 2' of the playing table. See pic upper left side.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1362285157.jpg

911dean 03-02-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S (Post 7305943)
I don't understand... The only restraint is a width that is 13'-6" and that only exists for 2' of the playing table. See pic upper left side.

That 2' translates to alot of shots that will be restrictive to proper cue movement. A good player could make your life miserable using that to his advantage.

Dean

pwd72s 03-02-2013 07:59 PM

Hi Dean...you ever get that SW cue?

Doug...with respect to "Scotty"...I kinna exceed the laws of physics, captn'!
Ideal set up is room beyond the standard 58" cue length because for shots off the rail the shooter needs to line up body parts beyond that. Dean also nailed it. A shooter with even basic cue ball control could make you miserable by playing safety with the cue ball left in that area until your poor shots gave him an easy run out.

911dean 03-02-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7305992)
Hi Dean...you ever get that SW cue?

Paul... still waiting, should get my order form in a few months. I'm hoping sooner, I only ordered it in December 2002. Laurie's not happy that I want it wrapless. If I ask for an ebony nosepiece, she will even be less happy.

I was offered $500 for my spot. Should have countered. $1000 will buy it from me.

Dean

pwd72s 03-02-2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 911dean (Post 7306021)
Paul... still waiting, should get my order form in a few months. I'm hoping sooner, I only ordered it in December 2002. Laurie's not happy that I want it wrapless. If I ask for an ebony nosepiece, she will even be less happy.

I was offered $500 for my spot. Should have countered. $1000 will buy it from me.

Dean

I say stick with what YOU want...wrapless is more difficult to build, wood wise...but I'm sure you already know that. A nice wrapless SW cue usually demands an addional $1,000 in the marketplace. Depending, of course, on design. I'm sure you've been cruising the SW classified ads on AZB, right?

I've been toying with the idea of having a stacked leather wrap done on my Josey, but don't want to shoot with another cue during the time it would take to do. Being a pool hall junkie ain't easy...;)

72doug2,2S 03-03-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 7305992)
Doug...with respect to "Scotty"...I kinna exceed the laws of physics, captn'!
Ideal set up is room beyond the standard 58" cue length because for shots off the rail the shooter needs to line up body parts beyond that. Dean also nailed it. A shooter with even basic cue ball control could make you miserable by playing safety with the cue ball left in that area until your poor shots gave him an easy run out.

I can move the table away from the interior wall. What is the ideal distance (all sides) form the pool table edge for 58" cue?

911dean 03-03-2013 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72doug2,2S (Post 7307085)
I can move the table away from the interior wall. What is the ideal distance (all sides) form the pool table edge for 58" cue?

60" would be good.


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